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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35827

    #76
    Originally posted by Terry
    While the facts may well bear that out of the last two "Van Halen" tours, the Roth-fronted version of the band performed better commercially, it's really of little difference...least to me.

    Shit, even if the record-sales figures were such that Van Hagar had outsold CVH, well, what does that mean? Not much. For me, it's the way I react to the music that defines the bottom line in terms of my own appreciation.

    Despite the amount of tickets sold, in my opinion Ed's playing on the 2007-2008 tour was probably the weakest he has ever displayed live, and the large gross the tour generated doesn't change that. Best of my recollection (not having looked up the sales figures in quite some time) the 5150 album outsold Fair Warning. Doesn't make a dent in my preference between the two.
    From what I've seen he was a lot worse during the Hagar reunion.

    As far as the sales stuff I agree with you up to a point - Celine Dion has sold a lot of albums. Its worth setting out sales figures in detail though because Hagar lies about it all the fucking time as do his fans.

    Both for the same reason that deep down they know that the CVH music is what is what is lasting and has the real artistic merit and influence whether they like it or not.

    So if you take away the sales argument from Van Hagar, the false argument that it may not be innovative but it was more popular, then you are pretty much left with nothing. Van Hagar becomes a musical cul de sac - a non event, and waste of time for everyone involved.

    But we knew that already, it's just handy having the ammo easily available to prove it to the mid western housewives/VH Links posters as required.

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #77
      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      From what I've seen he was a lot worse during the Hagar reunion.
      Yeah...he had #A - #E - #G etc. in sharpie along the top and back of his neck...

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      • hideyoursheep
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2007
        • 6351

        #78
        That's funny because it's probably true.

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        • hideyoursheep
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2007
          • 6351

          #79
          Originally posted by davehagarfan
          I could change my name to Ex-Hagar Fan and start denouncing all things Hagar

          In all seriousness.....I'll stop posting here once the original lineup pulls it's head out of it's own ass and starts touring again on a real reunion tour with the setlist to end all setlists.....
          In that case.....












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          Seriously man, I'm glad you showed up. You take shit, you give it back, you have your opinion....although it's usually WRONG....but you give it and deal.

          With less than dick coming out of Camp David Lee you might as well hang out here and . It's much more entertaining than watching that brain-dead pollip on a troll's ass called Letsrock struggle with more than 1 two syllable word per post.



          You're still a











          :D

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          • ThatArtGuy
            Foot Soldier
            • Jan 2004
            • 673

            #80
            Originally posted by hideyoursheep
            That's funny because it's probably true.
            It is true. It was on Entertainment Tonight when they were covering the Van Hagar reunion and the Earth, Wind, and Fire Tour in 04.
            I brought my pencil!!!

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            • ThatArtGuy
              Foot Soldier
              • Jan 2004
              • 673

              #81
              Okay, it was E! News. Here's the clip, if you dare. It's saddening to watch it. You can skip to the 0:45 second mark if you want to save yourself some pain.

              <object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/BxzCRxSNEX4&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/BxzCRxSNEX4&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>
              I brought my pencil!!!

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              • hideyoursheep
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2007
                • 6351

                #82
                Fuck.

                Did he have colored strings too?

                Wouldn't have mattered, I guess, 'cause he COULDN'T FIND 'EM!!!


                What a drunk/ fuckin' idiot he was.

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                • ZahZoo
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 9208

                  #83
                  Originally posted by davehagarfan
                  I have a schtick? What is it that's missing
                  You dancing around drunk in some woman's tube top with your shorts pulled up in a full melvin wearin yo momma's high heels and singing I'm too sexy for my cat...
                  "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #84
                    Thank you for remembering that, Art...

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                    • Panamark
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 17161

                      #85
                      Originally posted by davehagarfan
                      Yeah but who gives a shit about Australia.....you guys went batty for Unmasked era KISS and Gary Cherbone era VH.
                      I must have been sitting on a surf beach with a beer in my hand
                      and my toes in the sand on those nights...

                      Who in their right mind would want to see Eddie without Dave !?
                      Who in their right mind would want to see Kiss without Ace and Peter ?

                      Dude, we are so far removed from your world, I'm proud of it.
                      But at the same time I love your country and married an American
                      girl. We have the means to move to the US, but once you have lived on
                      the biggest tropical island /continent (and the oldest on earth) its really
                      hard to leave.....

                      But its ok, you have Cabo Wabo !!! Party on Garth....

                      I'll just chillout around the barrier reef and countless islands
                      in the tropics. Its a tough life

                      The biggest joke for us is the English sent their "convicts"
                      to a tropical paradise for punishment... Well we are still
                      here, and lovin it !!
                      Last edited by Panamark; 07-09-2009, 09:40 AM.
                      BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                      Love ya Mary Frances!

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                      • davehagarfan
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 294

                        #86
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        Billy Sheehan IS on Skyscraper...
                        But he wasn't on the tour and left the band because of the way the album turned out.....so essenitally he was MIA in Rothland

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                        • davehagarfan
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 294

                          #87
                          Originally posted by sonrisa salvaje
                          That is definitely an interesting list. I'm not sure how you rate Skyscraper as number 1 with an 8 out of 10 and then put EEAS as number 2 with a 9 out of 10. Nevertheless, it is a trip to see anyone put Skyscraper at the top of any list so i have to give you a hand. I can't relate to putting Van Hagar in front of any DLR but you probably saw that coming. That being said, you weren't afraid to throw it out there anyway. So, again i have to give you your props. You seem pretty level headed despite all the shit that has been thrown at you so i must say you are not easy to bash. Don't go sending me any friend requests but you're alright in my book.


                          Good point....I know that doesn't make much sense but you asked me for my top five favorites. I think EEAS is the better record in alot of ways but I've got a soft spot for Skyscraper for alot of different reasons so it trumps EEAS for some reason on my playlist often times.

                          I got into Sam's solo career around the same time I discovered CVH. 1982 or 1983 somewhere in there.......nothing touches CVH when it comes to the 1985 split but I continued to follow both parties and remained a fan always anxiously awaiting the reunion that would end all reunions....but that's never going to happen now.....

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                          • sonrisa salvaje
                            Veteran
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 2098

                            #88
                            Originally posted by davehagarfan
                            Good point....I know that doesn't make much sense but you asked me for my top five favorites. I think EEAS is the better record in alot of ways but I've got a soft spot for Skyscraper for alot of different reasons so it trumps EEAS for some reason on my playlist often times.

                            I got into Sam's solo career around the same time I discovered CVH. 1982 or 1983 somewhere in there.......nothing touches CVH when it comes to the 1985 split but I continued to follow both parties and remained a fan always anxiously awaiting the reunion that would end all reunions....but that's never going to happen now.....
                            Have you ever seen a grown man naked?
                            RIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
                            LET `EM ROLL ONE MORE TIME

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                            • davehagarfan
                              Head Fluffer
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 294

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Panamark

                              Who in their right mind would want to see Eddie without Dave !?
                              Who in their right mind would want to see Kiss without Ace and Peter ?



                              One word for ya............





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                              • davehagarfan
                                Head Fluffer
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 294

                                #90
                                Originally posted by sonrisa salvaje
                                Have you ever seen a grown man naked?


                                No but I'm blind now from gouging my eyes out with a fork after having seen a picture of a grown man in white levi's, a cowboy hat, a black muscle t-shirt with a big, fat gut and a shitty acoustic guitar posing like he was David "Ice Cream Man" Lee Roth himself.......

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