VH - A litany of lies and deception

[guwapo_rocker]

Fight!!!!

[Foozwah]

Originally posted by 5150Clown
"I was a little nervous, and I'm sure he was kind of surprised too..."

"But it was good. It was a little uncomfortable, like..."

"It actually got heavy fast, and it got deep fast."

For fuck's sake, were Spam and Winoboy having a phone conversation or reaming one another?

[Terry]

The brothers couldn't keep their stories straight in 1985 or 1996. Never mind contrasting them to what Roth said. Ed and Al's explanations varied from interview to interview, whereas Dave's side of what happened never changed.

1996 was simple. They had already contacted Roth and approached him to rejoin the band for the Best Of Vol 1 before Sammy had left. Cherone had already been up to 5150 before the MTV VMA's, where they had the 'falling out' with Dave. The brothers bullshitted Sammy and were working with Roth behind his back, and they did the same thing to Dave with Cherone. Around this time, Halen and their management renegotiated the previous royalty arrangement with Warner Brothers on the 6-pack albums, whereby Dave got a smaller percentage of the royalties than the other three (how this happened without Dave being aware of it I can't say).

Nice couple of guys, huh? Greedy.

They can't make music worth listening to, and they have an underhanded way of doing business. Why would Dave even want to bother with them? The name Van Halen is a tainted bill of goods. All that's left are the memories.

[EmpyreLounge44]

Re: VH - A litany of lies and deception

all i know is Gary is the one who put together the setlist for the 3 tour. When I interviewed him, he clearly stated that it was he who put the set together and made sure to fill it with more songs that had not been played live in a long time.

it is a big hypocracy that they said no tour for DLR with two songs but they do a tour for three songs with Sam. That leads me to believe that he is in fact the singer for VH and they will hit the studio once the tour concludes. but DLR has been quiet about everything for once so maybe something with ihm is forthcoming....i doubt it though. and your right all parties need to stop bitching and bad mouthing each other

[DavidLeeNatra]

dave stopped long time ago...

[EmpyreLounge44]

he was still talking crap on/around the tour with hagar...2 years aint that long ago. granted i havent seen too many interviews since then

[DavidLeeNatra]

what did he say? the only thing I remember was, that he made a joke about ed to find the building of the hall of fame and call him ed van heineken...but in the same quote he said "I love you, baby..."

dave was ready to clear it up with ed again and he always made that clear

[EmpyreLounge44]

i remember him calling him ed van heineken the few times i did see roth solo at the hagar tour and then again at pierre robert's 20th anniversary party in philly.

[5150Clown]

Is that where the Eddie "Van Heineken" thing came from? Hahahaha...that's is truly funny. I think Dave spoke smack about Eddie during the tour with Sammy because it was expected. Right now, he's got better things in mind. Not sure what they could be though.

[ZahZoo]

Moron!!

Putz!!

Moron!!

Putz!!

Does it really matter anymore what members of Van Halen said in 85, 96, 98? What's said and done is history isn't it?

What the band is doing today is based on their decisions and choices in the present.... Appears to me the only ones holding a death grip on the past are certain factions of the fan base, which I can say with 100% confidence Van Halen doesn't give a shot about... So, what's the point?

[5150Clown]

I thinkit boild down to Eddie. His hatred for Dave is incredible. He always has to say something in interviews of how he had "no control" back then and now he does. Like it was denied to him and he got abused in some way or another. He was just an idiot that didn't want to step up to the plate...that's all. Dave did cause Dave was sober and had balls from a young age.

[Roth kills Sam]

Originally posted by EmpyreLounge44
i remember him calling him ed van heineken the few times i did see roth solo at the hagar tour and then again at pierre robert's 20th anniversary party in philly.

I remember calling you a FAG.

GET YOUR GAY HOMO SPERMY GAYBAR LOVING ASS OUT OF HERE. THIS IS THE DLRARMY, NOT THE GAY HOMO BRETT NORTON VHLINKS

[Terry]

Originally posted by ZahZoo
Moron!!

Putz!!

Moron!!

Putz!!

Does it really matter anymore what members of Van Halen said in 85, 96, 98? What's said and done is history isn't it?

What the band is doing today is based on their decisions and choices in the present.... Appears to me the only ones holding a death grip on the past are certain factions of the fan base, which I can say with 100% confidence Van Halen doesn't give a shot about... So, what's the point?

Van Halen hasn't made any decent music in a long time, so naturally the past is gonna be of more interest than the present.

The guttersniping via the media of Roth, Van Halens and Hagar and that soap opera is more poignant than the three lame ass new tracks, the new Greatest Hits album or the 2004 tour.

Why bother focusing on the music of Van Halen? That became irrelevant 20 years ago.