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He's probably been refreshing that page for a month now...lmfao...
"Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."
Originally posted by Panamark That pollstar is a crock of shit.
Next week they will be number 10 (if we stop checking the
availability of tickets)
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Here’s the Pollstar Top 50 released yesterday.
As to the current Pollstar Top 50, if Diamond Dave was fronting this Tour, I would continue to tell you the same things and I’ve always posted on this subject. – These Charts and Pollstar’s Power Ranking is nothing more than an infomercial and they don’t mean shit! The rankings are based on the number of Pollstar “family” site hits for a particular band. They are not based on ticket sales, customer demand, show reviews or anything else! Just because people go to a website, DOES NOT mean they buy f—king tickets and put money in my pocket as a promoter. END OF STORY, it just total bullshit!.
Here is exactly how Pollstar defines their Power Index.
“Artists are ranked by the number of times their itinerary is requested by fans visiting the Pollstar Web site on the Internet……The Power Index is determined by ranking the artists as a percentage of the chart leader.”
This is a mealy mouth way of saying it is based on Site hits. Also notice their word RANKING. This poll is a “ranking” NOT a “rating” and there is a damn big difference in those two words in this business! Look it up if you don’t understand it.
Gary Bongiovanni, editor-in-chief of Pollstar basically admitted last week, that their top 50 Chart is totally worthless. I have attached via separate post, edited excerpts from the Indianapolis Star June 28, 2004 article -“Concert Promoters Play Let’s Make a Deal” plus URL reference to the entire article. In this June 28 article he basically states that Van Halen’s Tour is not doing well, and he states “ The Van Halen offer, Bongiovanni says, draws attention as an extreme bargain.” As a promoter you don’t offer extreme bargains if your Tour is doing well! Bongiovanni, makes this statement yet at the same time the new PollStar Top 50 Chart has Van Halen as #1. Case close!
Actually, Van Halen being #1 this week was totally expected. It works like this, people hear about all the VH Tour problems in the press, no VH sellouts to-date, “free food and parking with VH tickets deals, tons of great tickets available, some dumbass named gslinger on RothArmy saying that you can buy great upfront tickets for peanuts on Ebay and other places, and they check the deal out on a Pollstar site. It’s a curiosity deal. Still doesn’t mean they buy tickets, go to the concerts, and put money in my pocket as a promoter.
Look at the Cure as #1 on that Chart last week, it was a curiosity deal. That band sucks, they are not a material ticket draw!
Why is Madonna 17 last week and 7 this week on Pollstar, when her concert Tour is presently #1 in ticket sales and gross revenue for her Tour?
Why is Prince 11 last week and 14 this week, when his Tour is also one of the top producing Tour’s this year? That concert was sold out when it played in my city, not that I went.
Why is Velvet Revolver, 20 last week, and 19 this week on Pollstar, when all but one concert has been sold out on their Tour and their hit single Slither has a stranglehold at #1 on both R&R and BillBoard respective charts?
Why is Jimmy Buffet, 24 last week and 20 this week on Pollstar, when he is #1 on Billboard BoxScore as the biggest concert draw, both tickets and dollars for the reporting period?
It’s because with Spammy fronting Van Halen the Chart is worthless!
It’s because with David Lee Roth fronting Van Halen the Chart is worthless!
Simply stated – THE CHART IS WORTHLESS as a gauge of real customer demand, ticket sales, and Tour success.
<center>* * This is the last time I will be reporting on this Chart – Thanks * *</center>
<center>Accept Only Van <strike>Halen</strike> Roth Classic! "Everyday becomes a better Diamond Dave day"</center><center>http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6002/03Way.jpg
</center><marquee><b><font color=Blue><size=+4>The 2004 Spammy “Eat It & Puke” Van ReHash Tour * Coming to a "This Suit is You" Store In Your Tiny Little Neighborhood. Brought to you by the Hemlock Society, Underground Bulemics United, PUTR - People for the Unethical Treatment of Rockfans, & a Special Message from Eddie & Alex Van Halen - Fuck you guyssss!!!!! </size></font></b></marquee></font>
<center> "Those cats had me so beat down & confused, made the cancer seem like a tiny zit on my ass..I don't have a clue what's going on"-EVH</center>
<center>Click>"Hot Chicks for Dave" & "Dave’s Cavalcade of Bimbos"</center>
There have been 11 negative news articles about the Van Halen Tour not doing well in the last 15 days
Here one:
<center>Accept Only Van <strike>Halen</strike> Roth Classic! "Everyday becomes a better Diamond Dave day"</center><center>http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6002/03Way.jpg
</center><marquee><b><font color=Blue><size=+4>The 2004 Spammy “Eat It & Puke” Van ReHash Tour * Coming to a "This Suit is You" Store In Your Tiny Little Neighborhood. Brought to you by the Hemlock Society, Underground Bulemics United, PUTR - People for the Unethical Treatment of Rockfans, & a Special Message from Eddie & Alex Van Halen - Fuck you guyssss!!!!! </size></font></b></marquee></font>
<center> "Those cats had me so beat down & confused, made the cancer seem like a tiny zit on my ass..I don't have a clue what's going on"-EVH</center>
<center>Click>"Hot Chicks for Dave" & "Dave’s Cavalcade of Bimbos"</center>
<center>Accept Only Van <strike>Halen</strike> Roth Classic! "Everyday becomes a better Diamond Dave day"</center><center>http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6002/03Way.jpg
</center><marquee><b><font color=Blue><size=+4>The 2004 Spammy “Eat It & Puke” Van ReHash Tour * Coming to a "This Suit is You" Store In Your Tiny Little Neighborhood. Brought to you by the Hemlock Society, Underground Bulemics United, PUTR - People for the Unethical Treatment of Rockfans, & a Special Message from Eddie & Alex Van Halen - Fuck you guyssss!!!!! </size></font></b></marquee></font>
<center> "Those cats had me so beat down & confused, made the cancer seem like a tiny zit on my ass..I don't have a clue what's going on"-EVH</center>
<center>Click>"Hot Chicks for Dave" & "Dave’s Cavalcade of Bimbos"</center>
I like you cocksuckers that come on this Board and think you have one fucking clue what you are talking about...
Here's your hero fuckstick!
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<center>Accept Only Van <strike>Halen</strike> Roth Classic! "Everyday becomes a better Diamond Dave day"</center><center>http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6002/03Way.jpg
</center><marquee><b><font color=Blue><size=+4>The 2004 Spammy “Eat It & Puke” Van ReHash Tour * Coming to a "This Suit is You" Store In Your Tiny Little Neighborhood. Brought to you by the Hemlock Society, Underground Bulemics United, PUTR - People for the Unethical Treatment of Rockfans, & a Special Message from Eddie & Alex Van Halen - Fuck you guyssss!!!!! </size></font></b></marquee></font>
<center> "Those cats had me so beat down & confused, made the cancer seem like a tiny zit on my ass..I don't have a clue what's going on"-EVH</center>
<center>Click>"Hot Chicks for Dave" & "Dave’s Cavalcade of Bimbos"</center>
"Yeah you Spammy, bring that shit to me cock boy!"
Pix courtesy of brianjayy
Byline courtesy gigolo
<center>Accept Only Van <strike>Halen</strike> Roth Classic! "Everyday becomes a better Diamond Dave day"</center><center>http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6002/03Way.jpg
</center><marquee><b><font color=Blue><size=+4>The 2004 Spammy “Eat It & Puke” Van ReHash Tour * Coming to a "This Suit is You" Store In Your Tiny Little Neighborhood. Brought to you by the Hemlock Society, Underground Bulemics United, PUTR - People for the Unethical Treatment of Rockfans, & a Special Message from Eddie & Alex Van Halen - Fuck you guyssss!!!!! </size></font></b></marquee></font>
<center> "Those cats had me so beat down & confused, made the cancer seem like a tiny zit on my ass..I don't have a clue what's going on"-EVH</center>
<center>Click>"Hot Chicks for Dave" & "Dave’s Cavalcade of Bimbos"</center>
Originally posted by Baby's On Fire I agree with all your sentiments. But why don't you go find yourself a bitch with some REAL TITS?
Man, that's a nice pair. And they most assuredly are Real, brother. Yeah, this particular set are a little played out right now, but I loves 'em.
Never discourage Tit Revelation, my friend. If you don't like 'em, post something better and let us judge 'em all!
It's funny to see the sheep squirm on these ticket sales. Maybe Dave embarassed himself on Leno, but it was one night. This flame out is set to last for a few more dates. *evil belly laugh*
And, Dysfunction, where did the Carmen avatar go? Looks like your an Insane Clown Posse guy now. And if that's supposed to be Dave, thanks... He really is the greatest show on earth.
"Float like a butterfly. Sting like a B-52."- DLR=VH=
"Rejoice in the wife of your youth. May her breasts satisfy you always." Proverbs 5:18-19.
the biggest problem with tours in general is not who is touring, its the pricing. who really wants to spend close to $100 for one ticket to a show?and i saw Velvet Revolver mentioned...they are smart in playing the smaller clubs, there is such a buzz about them that it is almost impossible to get tickets to and creating such a buzz that when they come back later in the year (i've heard with the darkness) that the buzz will be there and they will be able to easily sell out the much larger venues then what they are in now
Originally posted by EmpyreLounge44 the biggest problem with tours in general is not who is touring, its the pricing. who really wants to spend close to $100 for one ticket to a show?
Sorry HAGAR FAG, but people are willing to spend $100 to see a GREAT BAND
Originally posted by EmpyreLounge44 the biggest problem with tours in general is not who is touring
It's certainly a problem with summer tours. You know the type:
Nostalgia trips down memory lane designed specifically for the
casual fan cretins ready to bust out their cargo shorts. "Hey honey,
REO's gonna be at tha amfatheeater!!" The van hagar train wreck
we're all witnessing is shockingly similair. A one-off, thrown together,
sloppy rehash. Make no mistake, this thing was cuntceived for a
hit and run Gary Busey style.
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