The Kinks Vs Van Halen: Battle Finally Commences

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  • VHscraps
    Veteran
    • Jul 2009
    • 1874

    #16
    Originally posted by Carloscda
    That's contradictory to what he said on one of those rock countdown shows on VH-1
    He said he liked VH's version better than theirs!
    Yup - both he and Ray Davies have said very complimentary things about VH's version. Dave Davies is - to use an expression EVH would understand - 'a bit of a loose cannon'. My guesses as to how we read this are:

    (i) that the journo didn't quite get Dave Davies' English sarcasm - and he is a sarky git.
    (ii) Dave Davies does interview with journalist, gets reminded that he never gets credit for the Kinks (RAY DAVIES gets all the credit for the Kinks), and ends up generally pissed off about anyone getting credit for his riff.

    Re- what some folks are saying about other Kinks' covers - I thought they did a great version of 'Where Have All the Good Times Gone' - better than the original, and better than some others I've heard (e.g. Bowie). Dave manages to wrest something you'd have to say is melodic out of a very un-melodic vocal line (on the original Kinks version).
    THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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    • fryingdutchman
      Full Member Status

      • Feb 2005
      • 4133

      #17
      The Davies brothers make the Van Halen brothers look musically relevant these days...and that's saying something.
      Originally posted by perilouspete
      fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.

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      • Ruprecht
        Roadie
        • Jul 2010
        • 148

        #18
        the haleners version is a lot louder than the kinks vesion, so haleners guitars where newer and louder than kinks guitars, cheap one from 60's / listen to the record and hear the difference

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        • DlocRoth
          ROCKSTAR

          • Jan 2004
          • 5521

          #19
          Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
          They should have done All day and all of the Night instead of Where Have All the Good Times Gone.

          Ray should cash the checks and be grateful.
          Agree they would have tore that song to shreds....

          But I bet they didnt do it because that and YRGM sound almost identical.
          Fuck Scott Weiland. Fucking asshole. I get trashed all the time and still go to work. And my job sucks ass. -ODShowtime

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          • Diamondjimi
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • May 2004
            • 12086

            #20
            The Kinks:Dave Davies Slams VAN HALEN..............ungrateful BASTARD!

            DAVE DAVIES Slams VAN HALEN's THE KINKS Cover - Aug. 2, 2010
            The Pulse of Radio reports: Over 30 years since VAN HALEN broke the Top 40 with their high-octane cover of THE KINKS' "You Really Got Me" — THE KINKS' Dave Davies says he's got a problem with it. Davies, who is recovering after being sidelined by a 2004 stroke, took a poke at VAN HALEN, telling Classic Rock, "There's the thing: good art isn't always about having the comfiest technique. I shouldn't encourage him, but I'm sure Eddie Van Halen played better when he was drunk. But it must be a good record if people like it. VAN HALEN's version was very Middle America. It was like, 'Hey man, look at me with my tight trousers! Here's our version of 'You Really Got Me'!"

            Davies says that THE KINKS actually came to resent the cover version that was featured on VAN HALEN's 1978 self-titled debut. "We got pissed off though, when we played America," he said. "THE KINKS had an album out called 'Low Budget' and we ended up touring and playing stadiums. Some kid came up to me after one of the gigs and said: 'I like your cover of VAN HALEN's 'You Really Got Me'. You have to smile sometimes."

            Dave Davies, who has always battled his brother Ray Davies for attention and control of THE KINKS says that he's responsible for the band's signature sound on "You Really Got Me" which propelled them to fame. "It wouldn't have been a record without, in all modesty, I think it wouldn't have been a record without that guitar sound on it, so it's like it paved the way for our whole career," he said.


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            Christ, what a bitter old fuck. Bet he enjoyed the fuckin monthly royalty cheques.
            I mean is there really any cuntparasin....



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            • Little Texan
              Full Member Status

              • Jan 2004
              • 4579

              #21
              Van Halen took that song and made it their own, and The Kinks version just pales in comparison. The old man is just jealous that the VH version smokes their version and that the song is identified as a VH song.

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              • hambon4lif
                Crazy Ass Mofo
                • Jun 2004
                • 2810

                #22
                Originally posted by Diamondjimi
                [B][I] DAVE DAVIES Slams VAN HALEN's THE KINKS Cover - Aug. 2, 2010
                The Pulse of Radio reports: Over 30 years since VAN HALEN broke the Top 40 with their high-octane cover of THE KINKS' "You Really Got Me" — THE KINKS' Dave Davies says he's got a problem with it. Davies, who is recovering after being sidelined by a 2004 stroke, took a poke at VAN HALEN, telling Classic Rock, "There's the thing: good art isn't always about having the comfiest technique. I shouldn't encourage him, but I'm sure Eddie Van Halen played better when he was drunk. But it must be a good record if people like it. VAN HALEN's version was very Middle America. It was like, 'Hey man, look at me with my tight trousers! Here's our version of 'You Really Got Me'!"

                Davies says that THE KINKS actually came to resent the cover version that was featured on VAN HALEN's 1978 self-titled debut. "We got pissed off though, when we played America," he said. "THE KINKS had an album out called 'Low Budget' and we ended up touring and playing stadiums. Some kid came up to me after one of the gigs and said: 'I like your cover of VAN HALEN's 'You Really Got Me'. You have to smile sometimes."
                Where's the argument? Edward does play better when he's drunk! He's uninhibited that way! He becomes a total hack when everyone around make the fatal mistake of trying to dry him out.
                I say leave him the fuck alone,and let him do whatever he's gotta do to get in the frame of mind to crank out some killer tunes! If people keep trying to intervene and change him......nobody will EVER hear any new Van Halen music. Just mind your own fucking business and let him do his thing!

                As far as Dave Davies bitter staement? That's a testimony of total ownage. I don't think anyone in the last two generations even know who the fucking Kinks are anyways.

                If anyone wants new music from Eddie, they really have to pull their nose out of his asshole and back the fuck off! The six-pack wasn't created by everyone crawling all up into his business!

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59579

                  #23
                  And let's not forget, the Davies brothers got paid for this one too....




                  I heard they were gonna do a cover of Lola on the second Van Danniels album, but then Cherone got fired
                  Eat Us And Smile

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                  • hambon4lif
                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 2810

                    #24
                    FUCK the 12-step bullshit! Ed's a timid dude.....when he cuts loose, he creates magic!

                    I say "Let It Be"......

                    here's Eddie......IN THE ZONE!

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                    • chefcraig
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 12172

                      #25
                      Sorry my friend, but this is a DUPLICATE THREAD
                      Last edited by chefcraig; 08-03-2010, 08:41 AM.









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                      • Big Troubles
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 8517

                        #26
                        I like the Kinks version, not better, but equally good.

                        VH took that song and made it a killer cover tune! VH is the only band I know of that can take a good/mediocre song and crank it up and make it their own.
                        "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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                        • Big Troubles
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 8517

                          #27
                          Originally posted by hambon4lif
                          FUCK the 12-step bullshit! Ed's a timid dude.....when he cuts loose, he creates magic!

                          I say "Let It Be"......

                          here's Eddie......IN THE ZONE!



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                          May fav Eddie solo EVER! (altho I hav2 admit LWAN is pretty damn good as well- Same with '94)

                          Give the man more booze!
                          "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59579

                            #28
                            Originally posted by chefcraig
                            Sorry my friend, but this is a DUPLICATE THREAD
                            And now, it's a merged thread.
                            Eat Us And Smile

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                            • Hardrock69
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 21897

                              #29
                              One thing I like about the Kinks version is the drum sound. It has that loud chika-boom sound like you hear on the original version of Dancing In The Streets by Martha And the Vandellas.

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