micheal anthony on that metal show next saturday

[Va Beach VH Fan]

A buddy of mine told me about 10 years ago that VH went downhill when Ed stopped doing coke....

[Nitro Express]

My new band is called Chickenfood...

But Sam is in the band. CHICKENFUCK is probably a more accurate name because when Sam comes into the barnyard the chickens run to avoid being raped.

[sadaist]

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why would he even WANT to come back into the band now if financially the same situation were to exist?

Because a small percentage of a real Van Halen reunion is going to be much much larger than an equal percentage of Chickenfoot.

[VHscraps]

I dunno...I thought they made a couple of good albums after Fair Warning.

I think 1984 is a great album, but it was the beginning of the end.

It could be for lots of reasons. But I think it might have been a combination of being married and having the studio. Okay he got married in '81, but went straight on tour for most of 1981 after finishing in the studio with FW. Then, bounced into the studio at the turn of 1982, followed by touring from summer 82 to the end of the year. The beginning of '83, when the studio was being built probably coincided with his first extended bout of domestic life with the new wife.

And she, of course, was telling him not to let Dave run the band. Put that together with the studio, and marginalising Templeman as well - and hey presto, the writing is on the wall.

When they were making all those earlier albums - right up to Diver Down - they were still rehearsing and working up tunes in the basement of Dave's father's house. On Dave time, in other words. Soon as Eddie got control, it began to kill the spontaneity. They were on Ed time - we've all seen in the last dozen or so years how productive he is (i.e., is not!). Instead of taking a week (or a few weeks at most) to record, 1984 is stretched out over about 6-7 months (March/April 83 to Oct 83).

[kwame k]

A pretty good tune, guitar-wise. Can't say as I cared much for the Simmons drums or the way the tune was produced from an engineering standpoint.

Before Al was put into the converted Racquetball/drum room...........instrument bleed and space was a huge concern, hence the Simmons drums.

[DavidLeeNatra]

[Nitro Express]

I think something goes to pot when you no longer really play in front of a live audience. The clubs are just over the hill from ed and does he ever go down to the Roxy or Whiskey for a sit in jam? Never. He hides in his studio and lives in a bubble and surrounded by people who kiss his ass.

[VHscraps]

I think something goes to pot when you no longer really play in front of a live audience. The clubs are just over the hill from ed and does he ever go down to the Roxy or Whiskey for a sit in jam? Never. He hides in his studio and lives in a bubble and surrounded by people who kiss his ass.

Exactly. But, hey, he has new adaptations of The StripesTM (on t-shirts, shoes, etc) to approve.

Always a loner as well - and even in the 70s, VH kept themselves apart from the other bands who played around Hollywood. Partly 'cos they were from Pasadena, but also because they consciously didn't mix. That probably helped them develop their own unqiue style - but now, as you say, Ed's just cut himself off from the lifeblood of music: performance, the audience, etc.

Thing is - he was such a great performer once. Not just playing, but putting on a show.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

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