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  • chefcraig
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Apr 2004
    • 12172

    #31
    Originally posted by binnie

    Plus, at this stage in the game a new Van Halen album isn't going to be that commerically succesful. It wouldn't sell millions.
    It wouldn't have to sell in the millions to outsell Diamond Dave or that bluegrass album.
    Last edited by chefcraig; 06-30-2011, 01:11 PM.









    “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
    ― Stephen Hawking

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59644

      #32
      Originally posted by chefcraig
      It wouldn't have to sell in the millions to outsell Diamond Dave or that bluegrass album.


      ...Or VDIII and that last "greatest hits" abortion with the three godawful Van Hagar tunes, for that matter.

      Maybe if you combined all 4, you might have a million seller?
      Last edited by chefcraig; 06-30-2011, 01:12 PM. Reason: Fixed that for ya.
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

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      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • indeedido
        Veteran
        • Feb 2004
        • 2293

        #33
        Originally posted by Nitro Express
        Let's be realistic. Bands sometimes go on tour because a band member needs the money. The Who went on tour because John Entwistle was in financial trouble and needed money. Why would Van Halen suddenly go on tour with Roth when they avoided that for years and were in no hurry to do it later? Alex probably needed the money and the relationship with Sam was done. So they got Dave in. It might also be the influence of Ed's new wife who would benefit from the cash flow as well.

        It's no longer the dynamic Van Halen of old. It's more of a posed situation. At least the fans got their closure and they finished the tour.

        Who knows how much money Edweird flushed down the toilet in the last ten years with the porn crowd, coke, meth, etc. Those porn parties at his house, how much shit got stolen and what did he give away because he was so fucked up?? Rick James said it best.....

        This space for rent.

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        • ZahZoo
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Jan 2004
          • 9172

          #34
          Hoping the self produced info isn't true... that could be disastrous. Oh well at least the noise levels are picking up...
          "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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          • Halen High
            Commando
            • Jul 2004
            • 1231

            #35
            Originally posted by speedtruckermf
            So as my world is apparantly very small, I actualy got an update on the new record. Apparantly Ed is "producing" it. Shanks is only "producing" Roth's vocal tracks at an outside studio. The music was done by Eddie at 5150 with Ross Hogarth engineering. No gonna get anybody in trouble by naming names, as someone might get fired, but that's the way it's been done.The record is done ( recorded) , but is being "tweaked" at 5150. I 'have not heard it, and I have no idea about the actual record. Just an update on the process from someone actually working on it. Thought I'd share.
            Melodicrock started the Ross Hogarth rumours in 2010. However, the VHND, which seems to be a much more reliable source these days said the following about those rumours last December:

            VHND:
            Rumor: Van Halen has chosen Ross Hogarth to produce new music.
            FALSE: The producer they chose is John Shanks. Hogarth is an engineer rather than a producer, and is not involved with Van Halen whatsoever.

            I don't doubt that Eddie had some input into the producing, but if it was only Shanks and Roth working on vocals at an outside studio with Eddie doing the music at 5150, why was Eddie recently photographed at that outside studio?

            VHND:
            Rumor: DLR’s vocals are being recorded away from the 5150 studio.
            Partially True: This is true, but only in regards to the early demos, not the final recording. This is what many bands do before entering the studio. The entire band will reconvene in the studio in January.

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            • Terry
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 12135

              #36
              They're diddling around way too fucking long.

              The best CVH records and Roth solo records were made quick.

              The longer it takes, the more labored it's gonna sound.

              Whatever. I mean, as little hope I have for anything decent to result from this it's all moot anyway, as I will naturally buy whatever 'Van Halen' releases as long as Dave is in the band.

              Man, it's gonna be fuckin' odd to actually buy a full-length Van Halen album with Roth fronting the group again after more than a quarter century has passed.
              Scramby eggs and bacon.

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              • BumBahDeeDah
                Head Fluffer
                • Mar 2004
                • 292

                #37
                Watched The Police Certifiable DVDs the other night and it kept making me think how much I cant stand that Van Halen cant or wont seem to get shit done that even if so-so, I'm going to run out blindly and purchase. They couldn't get one good show off that tour to put out on DVD? They cant work together and knock out a CD in these three years. I hate them worse than I hate the Mets medical staff.

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                • Halen High
                  Commando
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 1231

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Terry
                  Man, it's gonna be fuckin' odd to actually buy a full-length Van Halen album with Roth fronting the group again after more than a quarter century has passed.
                  I can clearly remember walking into a record store during my lunchbreak and buying 1984, within a few days of its release. I remember how cool the cover was. Now all these years later, I'm going to be doing the same thing - buying a VH album with Dave as frontman - it sure will feel a little odd.....

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                  • SWEETWILLIAM
                    Groupie
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 50

                    #39
                    I am worried, the magic happened in the studio when there was creative tension. I hope that we get something we have all been waiting for, a SMOKING HOT DISC!!!!!!!!!!!! Something that will melt our ears and make the hands fall off the clock. Anything similiar to throwup my breakfast or whatever that crap was that sped put out will be the end to them!!!!! Would a disc full of MWM and CGTSNM suffice????

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                    • Va Beach VH Fan
                      ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 17913

                      #40
                      Originally posted by SWEETWILLIAM
                      Would a disc full of MWM and CGTSNM suffice????
                      Absolutely not, IMHO.....
                      Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                      "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                      "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                      • SWEETWILLIAM
                        Groupie
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 50

                        #41
                        And that's exactly what I am worried about. The anticipation of what we are expecting, they better bring it !!!!!!!!!

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                        • Va Beach VH Fan
                          ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 17913

                          #42
                          Utilizing the old demos makes me feel better about the process...

                          Much better than coming up with an album full of "Up For Breakfast" bullshit....
                          Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                          "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                          "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                          • SunisinuS
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • May 2010
                            • 3301

                            #43
                            Va Beach VH Fan.

                            You of all people should not be jaded at this point. Join your fellow VH fans and Rock with this party. It is a coming.

                            Bring It.

                            Let the Toastmaster General get us to stand up.
                            Last edited by SunisinuS; 07-04-2011, 01:49 PM. Reason: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mIP7ySBXBg&playnext=1&list=PL8B31C2A24B0306A9
                            Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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                            • SunisinuS
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • May 2010
                              • 3301

                              #44
                              GennyVH knows it's coming....why don't you?
                              Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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                              • Va Beach VH Fan
                                ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 17913

                                #45
                                Originally posted by SunisinuS
                                Va Beach VH Fan.

                                You of all people should not be jaded at this point. Join your fellow VH fans and Rock with this party. It is a coming.

                                Bring It.

                                Let the Toastmaster General get us to stand up.
                                I've earned my jade, dude... :D

                                So far, I've read enough decent indications that it won't be similar to a Hagarita-fest....
                                Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                                "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                                "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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