Official "A Different Kind of Truth" Album Review Thread

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  • VHscraps
    Veteran
    • Jul 2009
    • 1867

    Awesome fun. I haven't even heard the damn original, but now I've heard a cover.

    I think in my line of work that would be called postmodern - i.e., where the before and the after get the hell mixed up.

    Chicken? Egg ... Nah, bluemustard was first ...
    THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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    • VHscraps
      Veteran
      • Jul 2009
      • 1867

      Originally posted by bluemustard
      I'm drunk and covered Big river!!
      LOL
      Yeah!!! VAN HALEN!!! Cheers My vocals are funny.
      You got any specal kind of lubrication goin' on there, man ?
      THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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      • bluemustard
        Veteran
        • Mar 2006
        • 1762

        Kickass song...LOL..

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        • bluemustard
          Veteran
          • Mar 2006
          • 1762

          parker fly plays like butta...and im drunk

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          • VHscraps
            Veteran
            • Jul 2009
            • 1867

            Dunno what that means, but I'm drunk, too ... !
            THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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            • VHscraps
              Veteran
              • Jul 2009
              • 1867

              And it's a friggin' school nite, and there is no more whisky in the jar ...
              THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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              • bluemustard
                Veteran
                • Mar 2006
                • 1762

                Parker is a guitar..plays fast.
                All my weed and beer is gone.
                3 am
                Superbowlnight.
                -20 outside..LOL

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                • SunisinuS
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • May 2010
                  • 3301

                  I'm doing fine.

                  Can't Control your Future. Can't Control your Friends. The women start to hike their skirts up. I didn't have a clue. That is when I kinda learned how to smile a lot. One Two Three Fouir fun ter thehr fuur.

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                  • VHscraps
                    Veteran
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1867

                    Originally posted by bluemustard
                    Parker is a guitar..plays fast.
                    All my weed and beer is gone.
                    3 am
                    Superbowlnight.
                    -20 outside..LOL
                    -20 outside !? Brrrrrrrr !

                    I think it was about -5 here last night at the lowest.

                    Booze is done. Bedtime ... Damn. Still two days before I get my hands on this CD, unless I can find a copy tomorrow
                    THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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                    • Luke D
                      Full On Cocktard
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 49

                      HitFix.com gives the album a B-
                      A somewhat positive review, but the critic embarrassingly (now fixed) compared Big River to "Flirtin' With The Devil" (See comments). Really takes away any credibility.



                      Van Halen’s first new studio album with David Lee Roth in 28 years is named “A Different Kind of Truth,” but the Feb. 7 release could have just as easily been called “I Will Not Go Quietly” “Truth” is a heavy slab of rock delivered on a concrete pillow.

                      As fans already know, most of the riffs/ideas for the new tunes are from never-finished songs of yore: “She’s The Woman” is from a tune originally demoed in the ‘70s, while obsessive fans instantly noted the similarity between first single “Tattoo” and “Down To Flames,” a 1977 song played live, but never released on an album. Roth told the Los Angeles Times that the band sought to link its past with its present by taking the most promising chunks of coal from four decades ago and polishing them into diamonds.

                      That sets up the challenge inherent in the John Shanks-produced “Truth”: how to create an album that doesn’t sound like retreads. And to Van Halen’s credit, the band largely succeeds, but there are some serious gaps.

                      The good new (actually the great news) first: Eddie Van Halen lets loose on some riffs on “Truth” that will make longtime fans cry with joy. If he’s no longer in tip-top form, he’s still close enough that there are many moments throughout the album to dazzle Eddie wanna-bes. Plus, there seems to be no style that he doesn’t pull off here. If you’re an Eddie acolyte, you will not be disappointed. Alex Van Halen thumps the drums a plenty: just check out the crunchy opening of “As Is” to hear the brothers VH spreading some of that genetic magic that siblings seem to mysteriously share (and check out Eddie’s solo around 2:20). Roth’s voice is not the soaring, singular rock wonder that it used to be, but he’s still got plenty of horsepower under the hood and he’s not afraid to unleash it.

                      The bad news is the songs are largely hookless. There are great hints and ideas that trail off into nothingness or into guitar solos to distract from the fact that the song is on a bullet train to nowhere. For example, “Blood And Fire” opens to exciting promise with light, very catchy playing by Eddie and a strong verse filled with harmonies, but there’s never a sturdy enough chorus to hang any of it on, so instead, Eddie shifts into a ripping solo. It’s exhilarating, but can’t they do both any more?

                      Too often, in what perhaps is emblematic of their relationship, Eddie and Roth seems to be working on different songs and competing with each other instead of complementing. For example, Roth’s first words on “China Town” are a take-off on the most famous New York Post headline of all time: “Headless body found in topless bar,” but the rest of the song is all Eddie’s, from his mad-scientist opening to breathtaking solos. Roth’s words never fit in with the song. They don’t need to be a lockstep on each song—for example, on “Outta Space,” Roth is going on about this Facebook page (yeah, that’s not going to sound dated), but whatever Eddie and Alex are doing around that works just fine, instead of fighting against it.

                      Many of the songs, including “Tattoo,” “The Trouble with Never,” “As Is,” “Frosty,” and “honeybabysweetiedoll,” feature spoken interludes by Roth. It reaches the level of parody on “The Trouble With Never,” an otherwise fine song (one of the album’s best), when Roth drops his voice down an octave to talk about his “wicked, wicked ways.” Sure, his talking break worked to iconic effect in “Panama,” but that’s not a device that wears well generally.

                      “Big River,” the album’s penultimate tune, sounds like everyone’s finally rowing the same way, plus it has a “Runnin’ With the Devil” opening vibe. Great vocals by Roth, inspired playing by Alex, and guitar wizardry by Eddie all meld into something strong.

                      The Van Halens and Roth throw every guitar lick and vocal yelp that made someone love the band 30 years ago in here, but they’re competing with a mighty, mighty past. As I wrote earlier this week when reviewing Van Halen’s show in Los Angeles, the three new songs played that night fit in perfectly in concert as glue between the past hits and I don’t mean that as a diss. In some ways, that’s the very best they could have hoped for. Given all band’s past dramatics, “Truth” could have been a train wreck of epic proportion and it’s far from it, but it just has enough flashes of past brilliance to wish that the same care that seemed to go into the performances had gone into the songs.

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                      • 78/84 guy
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 2557

                        Originally posted by Luke D
                        HitFix.com gives the album a B-
                        A somewhat positive review, but the critic embarrassingly (now fixed) compared Big River to "Flirtin' With The Devil" (See comments). Really takes away any credibility.

                        http://www.hitfix.com/blogs/the-beat...-kind-of-truth
                        God I am so sick of reviews who gives a fuck about a guy that gets free cds too listen to !! Songs are largely hookless ??? OK dude. They have more hooks than almost any VH album !! That's why I personally think the songs are so good. Whatev..
                        Last edited by 78/84 guy; 02-05-2012, 11:20 PM.

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          I somewhat agree with that last review...

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                          • nitroDave23
                            Roadie
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 124

                            There are so many good songs on this thing....I've had the chorus's stuck in my head for days, and that's a damn good think.

                            Dave's amazing on this record, I did not honestly think he had it in him,so happy to be proven way fuckin' wrong.

                            One of my favorite lines so far is:

                            "Pick up a sea shell, hear the sea"

                            "Pick up a beer glass,that river belongs to meeeeee"

                            "Big River"

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                            • Bob_R
                              Full Member Status

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3834

                              Ta too Ta too!!
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                              • DLR Bridge
                                ROCKSTAR

                                • Mar 2011
                                • 5470

                                Blood & Fire has a very "sturdy chorus". What is this guy talking about?

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