Why are there so many Dave haters and Van Halen haters?

[dave_is_vh]

You guys familiar with "The Tall Poppy" Syndrome ?

Are people jealous of Dave's tall poppy?

[Hardrock69]

Anyone see Kelly Clarkson on Super Bowl?

She is SMOKING HOT! Man, her mouth was just made for sucking my dick!

[Panamark]

Are people jealous of Dave's tall poppy?

Tall Poppy Syndrome is where people cant stand the fact that someone or "thing"
is doing great ("the tall poppy")

So.....
They have to cut it down......

[Panamark]

Anyone see Kelly Clarkson on Super Bowl?

She is SMOKING HOT! Man, her mouth was just made for sucking my dick!

Yes !! I can picture your avatar opening the door
for Ms Clarkson with your "Lurch" Horse
Schlong hanging out and saying "You Rang" ?

[dave_is_vh]

Tall Poppy Syndrome is where people cant stand the fact that someone or "thing"
is doing great ("the tall poppy")

So.....
They have to cut it down......

I never really understood why some people take Dave's cockiness, attitude, fancy vocabulary, and sense of humor as a threat to their self esteem. The guy is a fucking entertainer. He is not your boss or your big brother. If he doesn't entertain you find another entertainer. But don't attack him just because he is cooler, funnier, more articulate, and more charismatic than you and your friends are.

[FORD]

Anyone see Kelly Clarkson on Super Bowl?

She is SMOKING HOT! Man, her mouth was just made for sucking my dick!

Her girlfriend might not like that.

[RedEye]

I think so many are so brainless that they let others do their thinking for them. On Tuesday our local rock radio station does "two fer Tuesday" and they lead off with tattoo... What was the second half of the two fer? Fucking Finish What You Started. An entire catalog of classic VH at their disposal and the DJ plays Van Hagar to fisish the two fer.... Obviously is a Hagar Dan and had to play Tattoo first and get his fav in second.

Those not hearing the new album hear things like this and aren't educated about the real VH... Those not on the fanatical side follow the rest of the sheep and like what they are told to like by radio. And criticize not because they really have an opinion, but because that is what THEY hear and spew the same drivel so as no to rock the boat and appear 'smart' like the others.

[VHscraps]

I think so many are so brainless that they let others do their thinking for them. On Tuesday our local rock radio station does "two fer Tuesday" and they lead off with tattoo... What was the second half of the two fer? Fucking Finish What You Started. An entire catalog of classic VH at their disposal and the DJ plays Van Hagar to fisish the two fer.... Obviously is a Hagar Dan and had to play Tattoo first and get his fav in second.

Those not hearing the new album hear things like this and aren't educated about the real VH... Those not on the fanatical side follow the rest of the sheep and like what they are told to like by radio. And criticize not because they really have an opinion, but because that is what THEY hear and spew the same drivel so as no to rock the boat and appear 'smart' like the others.

That's just one of many reasons why they should never have kept using the Van Halen name for the band in those years.

Isn't Finish What Ya Started just a totally lame tune. Stating the obvious, I know, but I mean - isn't it a totally crap vocal melody? A downright bad piece of songwriting ? ... it tries to be a sing-a-longa kind of tune, but the chorus is just so pedestrian and the Mike backing-vocals-by-numbers sound totally formulaic as well.

[VHscraps]

Forgot to say - the lyrics suck as well.

[Zing!]

I think so many are so brainless that they let others do their thinking for them. On Tuesday our local rock radio station does "two fer Tuesday" and they lead off with tattoo... What was the second half of the two fer? Fucking Finish What You Started. An entire catalog of classic VH at their disposal and the DJ plays Van Hagar to fisish the two fer.... Obviously is a Hagar Dan and had to play Tattoo first and get his fav in second.

Jesus - I would have had that station on speed-dial telling the DJ to take his earphones off his hips and pull his head out of his ass.

[Yount]

Hell, even my wife hates Dave. She hates the "scream' he does, she hates the fact that he sings about banging chicks.

Why you with her? You should corrupt her arse.
My GF was the same... tolerant at first but her true colours came through. It was very clear she was utterly intimidated by his moves, his lyrics, his sarcasm, his scream.
Now she dates some accountant shmoe and listens to Jeff Buckley and Bon Jovi.
I accept that Dave is the kind of vocalist who is very confronting. But Jesus! You reckon you'd get the tongue in cheek by now.

Women either hate his guts or wanna have a love child with him.
Too many fucking over-socialized leftists spouting jealous diatribe, and when they have nowhere left to turn, they start with the sexuality stuff - Dave's a homo - who cares?
Listen to the words. Listen to the story.

[Yount]

Isn't Finish What Ya Started just a totally lame tune.

Alex shines on this track. Can anybody who plays drums back this up??

[golitely]

Women either hate his guts or wanna have a love child with him.
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That comment made me laugh out loud becuz it is so true. I can remember a lot of heated discussions in the cafeteria.
Now my mom always described DLR as goofy (tho for her cool and sexy started and ended with Elvis), however she was cool enuff to call up her cousin who knew a guy who knew another guy who could get us radio station tix for the EEAS tour so I think she got it even if it wasn't the King.

[adena dodds]

Listen nobody likes to see anyone having more fun than they are....it's the way of the world. Misery loves company and Dave has always held his own. It's because he is so unique and no other human being can even touch his brain with a ten foot pole is most likely the reason for all of the hate.....I don't even think it is necessarily hate, I think it's more frustration. Yea, frustrated that they can't be him even on a bad day. Yea his body is that of a God, where most rock stars a skinny whimps, but for me it has always been the personality. He is so creative and super intelligent and the words he uses I have never even heard of. Of course a young girl can't help but to want to squeeze his butt or go around the corner in those spandex pants, who wouldn't. He was the ultimate male Chippendale slash rock star COME ON! But he is so special when he talks and giggles that it just always made me giggle and laugh as if I was the one talking to him. I have always been a naturally happy person, high on life so to speak, and the happy drunk or the life of the party. Not too many people have that effect on people and it's the jealous ones that will always have something to say just to make themselves feel better. It's happened to me on the job and in life to the point where you just have to become somewhat entertained by it.....then go home let Dave entertain you and it's all okay in the end. I've been labled as over the top just by what I may have been wearing but I think that Lady Ga Ga has put that one to rest for the rest of us, huh? Crazy from the heat!

Why are there so many Dave haters and Van Halen haters?

I consider Roth era Van Halen to be right up there with The Beatles, Rolling Stones, and Led Zeppelin in terms of the greatest bands of all time.

I consider Dave to be right up there with Mick Jagger and Robert Plant in terms of the greatest rock frontmen of all time.

To me bands and people at this level deserve a certain amount of respect. On Amazon and other review sites you see people saying things about Dave and Van Halen that they would never say in a million years about Jagger and the Stones or McCartney and The Beatles.

I think Dave and Van Halen deserve a hell of a lot more respect from people.

Perhaps the Dave hating has to do with his over the top behavior and sense of humor. But what is wrong with combining music and humor? Rock is supposed to be fun after all.

[dave_is_vh]

That's just one of many reasons why they should never have kept using the Van Halen name for the band in those years.

Using the Van Halen name for Van Hagar shows a complete lack of respect for Van Halen.

Jimmy Page did not use the name Led Zeppelin with The Firm or Coverdale Page. That's because he appreciates and values what Led Zeppelin was. Paul McCartney did not say that Wings were The Beatles.

I agree a lot of frustrations we have as Dave fans is due to Van Hagar trying to cash in on another band's name.

I think someone posted on here that Warner Brothers wanted Van Hagar to use a name other than Van Halen. I bet Dave would have rejoined the band sooner if Van Hagar hadn't been allowed to hijack another band's name. Furthermore it was Dave himself that came up with the name Van Halen in the first place. That might have been Dave's second worst business decision of all time (after leaving the band in the first place).