What Is It About Ed and Dave?

[Yount]

And also I still get the impression that Ed feels he is not recognized by the public at large. I mean for crying out loud he's the greatest fucking guitarist ever and people still paid money and made Hagar big for all those years simply because of Ed's weight and brilliance on his guitar (not necessarily the songwriting.) That little quote he said about people just listening to the vocals and not to the music. Total bullshit.

If anything it's the other way around. Nobody fucking listens to vocals and reads lyrics anymore (how many times does Dave get's labeled as a circus performer, not an artist?) because it requires effort and patience, a lot of dullards go no further than just grooving to the beat. Which is fine. Whatever mood you're in. There's a time and place for that. But Ed's guitar brilliance - I'll use that word again - was totally over-emphasized especially after Roth went (and had to be to mask the regression on vocals.) People have always paid attention to your music Ed. That's why you have so many grunts that follow you and buy all your shit and you have stayed mega rich.

ROTH DESERVES CREDIT! And he never burnt the CVH bridge, always sticking up for the original army.

Maybe Ed's frustration has been that Dave has always had rabid die-hard loyal support whereas he's had a broader but less personal worship from his fans. Just a theory.

And don't nobody get too upset. They're playing together. The hatchet must be buried somewhere.

[TJMKID]

ROTH DESERVES CREDIT! And he never burnt the CVH bridge, always sticking up for the original army.

If you really think about ADKOT ---- Dave worked harder on it than any Van Halen did. Dave wrote all new lyrics to old demos that Eddie basically replayed. Slight tweaking here and there but you get the point.

Eddie has sobered up and seems to have control of his demons ---- but he still wants the world to think Lead Singer Disease is a major problem.

Nigga, please !!

[DONNIEP]

If you really think about ADKOT ---- Dave worked harder on it than any Van Halen did. Dave wrote all new lyrics to old demos that Eddie basically replayed. Slight tweaking here and there but you get the point.

Eddie has sobered up and seems to have control of his demons ---- but he still wants the world to think Lead Singer Disease is a major problem.

Nigga, please !!

No, no, no. You're supposed to believe that somebody else picked the songs, wrote the songs, played the songs, and is doing everything except dressing Dave each night before the show. Dave is just the singer. Why don't you get it?

[Yount]

- but he still wants the world to think Lead Singer Disease is a major problem.

And it's not. The problem wasn't LSD, what castrated VH was CFG.



(control freak guitarist)

[Angel]

Quite simply, The Greatest Guitarist Of All Time must work with The Greatest Vocalist Of All Time!

I wouldn't call Dave the greatest vocalist of all time. Great frontman...yes

[Yount]

I wouldn't call Dave the greatest vocalist of all time. Great frontman...yes

emcee whatever

[SNIPER]

There are many great vocalists with many different styles however none of them have any class. Dave's got class. ...No one sings like Dave better than Dave.

[DONNIEP]

I wouldn't call Dave the greatest vocalist of all time. Great frontman...yes

There are plenty of people who are more technically proficient singers. Lots of them. But that's not really what we're talking about here. Dave Roth is the epitome of what we'd all like to be - someone who just seems to shout it out and never looks back. That's the epitome of a real singer. Someone who just does it and it just works.

[TJMKID]

No, no, no. You're supposed to believe that somebody else picked the songs, wrote the songs, played the songs, and is doing everything except dressing Dave each night before the show. Dave is just the singer. Why don't you get it?

I don't blame Dave one bit for blowing off sound checks ---- who would wanna show up and have 3 people look at you and think ---- "Oh, here comes the disease".

[Yount]

Those VH boys tormented Dave for many, many years playing on his insecurities (if he has any!) claiming he had no real musical cred and that it was all just a big song and dance and piss-take. A bluff. THEY were the REAL musicians.... No way! The brothers are just domestic daddies with exceptional talent. Dave, the traveler, the big dreamer, he's proven to be closer to the source of what is The Real Musician over the years.

So I don't wanna hear about any more of this eye-rolling shit from you Van Halen boys, go on back to your air-conditioned mansions and have a think about what Dave has achieved over the years on "no talent."

[DavidLeeNatra]

magic...ying and yang...alpha and omega...whatever...

they NEED each other to be on top of their game...and to whitness that is very special...

[Yount]

I don't mind a bit of tongue in cheek ribbing about the stereotypical me me lead singer thing - that's part of Dave's act. He IS the centre of attention. I just don't want it to turn into bitterness and Ed start thinking that nobody is paying attention to him anymore because Dave's so cool and he's so shy and not witty and funny in the press cry cry etc. That'll probably lead to a drunken call to Sam. (Shudder)

[SNIPER]

Oh man, They rolled their eyes!! This band is over now for sure. Give me a fucking break.

[SNIPER]

Dave just got huge credit from the brothers. He just made an album with them.

[DONNIEP]

Dave just got huge credit from the brothers. He just made an album with them.

Or they just made an album with Dave...

You can tell it's an off night for the tour. We're arguing about this when on most nights we'd be rapping about the show