There is something missing in the stage act

[DLR Bridge]

He IS great...but IMO most of the time he's playihng over the average (non-guitarist) listener's head...even more so than Yngwie. EVH shreds and writes killer, hook-laden riffs. Most other shred guys never get the 2nd part down...

True. Pablo Gilberto on the other hand, can tear shit up and be a poppy goof at the same time. His solo CDs with him singing are actually quite entertaining. I could never stand Eric Martin's voice.

[jhale667]

True. Pablo Gilberto on the other hand, can tear shit up and be a poppy goof at the same time. His solo CDs with him singing are actually quite entertaining. I could never stand Eric Martin's voice.

Yep, Pablo is much more accessible. I also remember Billy Sheehan saying one of the coolest things about jamming with Paul is you can call out pretty much ANY rock staple and he knows it - you couldn't yell out "Houses of the Holy!" at Vai and expect him to whip it out. But Gilbert cut his teeth like most of us did in cover bands, unlike Vai and Yngwie - so he gets it.

[Coyote]

Did you understand "nej tack" :D thats a frase you should learn :D

It's familiar to me, although I have be aware of vocal tones... It may also mean "try harder".

[envy_me]

Don't get me wrong, he IS great, but the over indulgence aspect ruins it. Solo solo solo solo solo solo solo solo..... we get it! You can play! Sheesh!

I actually don't have a problem with just solos, only guitar. I like it actually.

[envy_me]

It's familiar to me, although I have be aware of vocal tones... It may also mean "try harder".

Haha :D

[DLR Bridge]

Yep, Pablo is much more accessible. I also remember Billy Sheehan saying one of the coolest things about jamming with Paul is you can call out pretty much ANY rock staple and he knows it - you couldn't yell out "Houses of the Holy!" at Vai and expect him to whip it out. But Gilbert cut his teeth like most of us did in cover bands, unlike Vai and Yngwie - so he gets it.

I remember Billy saying that, too. Good ol' Paul. Saw him at Sam Ash in Edison NJ when his King Of Clubs Cd came out. He signed an Ibanez book for me "my best friend since the second grade".

[DLR Bridge]

I actually don't have a problem with just solos, only guitar. I like it actually.

Hey, it's a free world.....
Well, parts of it. Enjoy!

[vandeleur]

True. Pablo Gilberto on the other hand, can tear shit up and be a poppy goof at the same time. His solo CDs with him singing are actually quite entertaining. I could never stand Eric Martin's voice.

I like Gilbert and yeah has a sense of humour , have u watched the acoustic version of green tinted 60 mind ... The tapped intro is clever any way but acoustic u can hear how effective it really is

[envy_me]

I like Gilbert and yeah has a sense of humour , have u watched the acoustic version of green tinted 60 mind ... The tapped intro is clever any way but acoustic u can hear how effective it really is

I have seen his instruction videos. Very funny :D

[DLR Bridge]

I like Gilbert and yeah has a sense of humour , have u watched the acoustic version of green tinted 60 mind ... The tapped intro is clever any way but acoustic u can hear how effective it really is

I'll have to check that out! Have you ever seen the live shot of him doing To Be With You but done with Ain't Talkin Bout Love type riffage? Pretty cool.

[vandeleur]

Swap ya I will check that out lol

[chefcraig]

I like Gilbert and yeah has a sense of humour , have u watched the acoustic version of green tinted 60 mind ... The tapped intro is clever any way but acoustic u can hear how effective it really is

This really is quite cool.

I'll have to check that out! Have you ever seen the live shot of him doing To Be With You but done with Ain't Talkin Bout Love type riffage? Pretty cool.

This made my day.

You could fill a thread with neat Gilbert covers. He does a nasty version of Aerosmith's "Lord Of The Thighs", and this is pretty funny, too. Here, he describes the famous "Hard Days Night" chord.

[fourthcoming]

I LOVED Steve Vai :D he was great!!

I thoroughly enjoyed Steve Vai also......on Eat Em and Smile and Skyscraper.....that's enough for me.

[Von Halen]

If a crackhead crashes a homo beach buggy in Detroit does it make a sound ??

the crackhead, the buggy or the city?

Better yet, what is a homo beach buggy and why drive one in Detroit while smoking crack? You could simply take in a Tigers' game and get pretty much the same result.

You rotten bastards!

[envy_me]

Observing over the years, it looks like fans break down into 3 groups: those 45+, the original fans (you lucky bastards!), who got to experience VH in all their glory while in their teens and 20s and are probably CVH fans first and DLR fans second ; then you have those about 37-45 (my group) who came in around DD and saw the tail end of VH, the break-up and followed Dave's solo career, who are probably DLR fans first and CVH fans second.

Then there are the rest who came on board say post 1996. I'm curious a bit about what drew this group (apart from the music, which is obvious). What are your expectations when seeing or listening to VH now? Are you focused on CVH? Are you even familiar with solo Dave, apart from maybe EEAS which most naturally flows from 1984? How does the whole Sammy, etc. history impact you emotionally? Does you even understand the context of a lot of the anger here towards him/them?
From the comments above, it just looks like those of us who have been around for awhile and saw DLR at the height of his powers are probably more forgiving of his/their present weaknesses. We don't expect SuperDave and I think that if most of us are honest (like Angel somewhere above), we don't even really want that because we too are older and have sort of been there, done that.
Just curious about the different viewpoints.

Well, I have always liked rock. And charismatic people, just like Freddie is. I am not a typical VH fan. For example I like Pretenders more. But DLR stands out, and he is the best frontman ever. I don't listen to VH without DLR. I like many of VH songs, but far from all.

I understand the anger, and I feel it too. I don't really understand why Sammy is so hated, is it just cause he replaced DLR, or did he do something else? Sure, he spoke badly of DLR when he first replaced him, but I got an impression that Sammy was a follower, and pretty much adapted to the climate in the band. If the Ed and Al hated Dave, then so did he. If they were talking shit, then so did he. He was more like a sheep that follows the crowd.

What really discusts me, is when I see some of the old interviews with the VH sisters, they are sitting like two old ladies, bitter, taking a role of an innocent victim, when it's obvious that they are anything but. He was basiclly saying "I was just humbly talking about my desiesed hip, and he tells me to shut the fuck and that it's all about him, I was so shocked, poor me", it was so gross and transparent. I was trying to find that interview on youtube, but I can't seem to find it.
So I can really understand the anger there.

EDIT: I see now that I am rambling, but I hope you guys get what I'm saying.