'Could This Be Magic: Van Halen Before 1978' by Elizabeth Wiley (New Book)

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  • VHscraps
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    • Jul 2009
    • 1874

    'Could This Be Magic: Van Halen Before 1978' by Elizabeth Wiley (New Book)

    Pics of the band that you have never seen before in this book, Could This Be Magic: Van Halen Before 1978 by Elizabeth Wiley.

    I originally posted this somewhere else in a thread about what books people were reading, but it'll get lost there, and I figured you'd all want to see these images.



    I just downloaded it on Kindle for £2.66 - it is a very sparse memoir of the time the author knew the guys in the band. Well worth the small cost. She apparently worked for Roth's father at some point, and followed Mammoth and Van Halen around, starched up Dave's denims, and took pictures, a lot of which are lost (or were given to an early manager).

    There's 3 pics of Dave with an acoustic guitar when, in her words, 'he was playing clubs as a solo artist'. She is not very good on remembering dates, but it seems this was probably 1972. One photo from around this time has been in circulation on the internet for years, but these three I have never seen. Interesting to see how Dave is dressed - flared kind of check / tartan strides with turn-ups and platform shoes.

    4 pics of Alex, rehearsing at a practice room with Mammoth. These, she says, were taken a year before the performance shot on the cover, which was 1973 - that means 1972.

    3 Ed pics from 72-73. Performing at some outdoors highschool venue (1973), and in the rehearsal room (1972). Like the Dave and Alex ones, I have seen one shot before which is not in the book, but has been circulating for years on the internet.

    2 pics of Mark Stone at rehearsal (he's on the cover as well), 1972. He has one of those plexi-glass basses.

    4 pics of Van Halen on stage - Dave, Ed and Al. She says 'it could be as late as 1975 or 1976', but earlier she says that she never took any photos with Mike Anthony in the band, so it is probably more like '74, before Mike joined. These are interesting for the period detail. Dave has a very glam hairdo that to me says '1973' or '1974'. I remember as a kid when people wore their hair like that. If he wasn't wearing denims, he could fit right into The Sweet, or something.

    I'd recommend it - it costs very little on the Kindle.

    See: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1466929294/ref=rdr_ext_tmb
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  • chefcraig
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Apr 2004
    • 12172

    #2
    Originally posted by VHscraps
    Totally unseen VH pics?! I'll be taking a look at this - if only for the pics. I think I've seen some of her photos, and always wondered where / when they were from.


    See more at: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1466929294/ref=rdr_ext_tmb
    GOOD LORD, THAT WAS ME IN 1977! Strangely enough, I don't recall visiting California in the late seventies, then again I fail to recall very much of the 1980s, either. Hell, a good part of the 1990s are a blur as well.










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    • VHscraps
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      • Jul 2009
      • 1874

      #3
      I have read it - it's only a few thousand words set around the photos.

      She is the 'Liz Wiley' who is on the thanks list on the first VH album. It rambles a bit at times, but there are enough interesting little nuggets of detail in it. Her sister managed Dave's band, Red Ball Jet, and then for a while the early incarnation of Van Halen.

      She mentions VH playing at what sounds like sex industry parties a couple of times - 'Freaker's Balls'... that was a new one on me.
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      • Va Beach VH Fan
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        • Dec 2003
        • 17913

        #4
        Loving the Mark Stone pic....
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        • Romeo Delight
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          • Feb 2005
          • 5174

          #5
          Originally posted by chefcraig
          GOOD LORD, THAT WAS ME IN 1977! Strangely enough, I don't recall visiting California in the late seventies, then again I fail to recall very much of the 1980s, either. Hell, a good part of the 1990s are a blur as well.

          Are you kidding me?

          When I saw that pic I was saying to myself...imagine being that guy just standing there listening to a Cream jam or something.

          Very cool
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          • VHscraps
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            • Jul 2009
            • 1874

            #6
            Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
            Loving the Mark Stone pic....
            A detail of one of the other Mark Stone pics taken as a screenshot on my iPhone from the kindle reader
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            • TJMKID
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              • Mar 2004
              • 1533

              #7
              Any chance you can scan all the photos from this book and post them here?


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              • chefcraig
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                • Apr 2004
                • 12172

                #8
                Originally posted by TJMKID
                Any chance you can scan all the photos from this book and post them here?
                From a legal standpoint, that could be a very tricky situation, since the material is clearly listed as copyrighted.









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                • DavidLeeNatra
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10715

                  #9
                  Originally posted by chefcraig
                  From a legal standpoint, that could be a very tricky situation, since the material is clearly listed as copyrighted.
                  post them at the links or some other Hagar-site and link them here...so they got sued
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                  • Momshell
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                    • Jan 2012
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by VHscraps
                    Pics of the band that you have never seen before in this book, Could This Be Magic: Van Halen Before 1978 by Elizabeth Wiley.

                    I originally posted this somewhere else in a thread about what books people were reading, but it'll get lost there, and I figured you'd all want to see these images.


                    Thanks for the info VHScraps - just ordered my copy on Amazon!
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                    • Diamondjimi
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                      • May 2004
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                      #11
                      I heard Mark Stone went into cartoons after VH...



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                      • Cato
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                        • Jan 2004
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Diamondjimi

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                        • DLR Bridge
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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 5479

                          #13
                          Man, when I watch the VH Early Years Documentary, I always feel so bad for this guy. He probably spent a lot of time reliving the day Ed and Al gave him the boot in his head. He should write a book.

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                          • VHscraps
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                            • Jul 2009
                            • 1874

                            #14
                            Didn't Eddie once say he left to go to college to study to be a chemist, or something?! Or he was too fond of building LSD molecules, whatever that means ... yeah, there's got to be a lot of people in his position, just missing the big breakthrough. Pete Best of the Beatles, who was replaced by Ringo when they were in Hamburg, is one of the guys who must've been wondering 'what if' (reputedly he was too good looking and got too much female attention).

                            There's a wiki page for Mark Stone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Stone_(musician)). It says he was at Eddie's 1981 wedding, so must've been in touch at some level back then.

                            Someone should insert that pic on the wiki page - I dunno how to do it.
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                            • VHscraps
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                              • Jul 2009
                              • 1874

                              #15
                              I don't want to infringe this lady's copyright, so I won't scan the images - she deserves to make some cash for the pics alone, seeing as these are the only ones of real early Van Halen.

                              But, I have taken a photograph of a page spread with a CD to give you a sense of the size of the book. I don't think these can be copied and reused in any useful way. The book's on Letter size paper, a very thin book, but obviously the photographs are the main selling point. It's a pity, as she says in the book, that these are all that's left of the photos she took.

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