Roth's Top 5 biggest career blunders.

[binnie]

Well during the whole Megadeth Metallica saga i fell directly in the Megadeth camp,They are one of my favorite bands and i love Dave.The producers of some kind of monsters requested Dave's permission to include his footage in the film and he denied it,But he signed a release form giving the producers the right to use it and they went ahead and put it in anyway.I just think that was a completely classless and yet another betrayal and fuck you to Dave,Which really pissed me off as Dave Mustaine and Megadeth are flat out better than Metallica

I'm a huge fan of both fans but I really don't believe Dave's side of the story there. I think it's more a case of him lot liking what he saw on the screen - not wanting to look weak (not that I think he did, but I can see how he would perceive it that way).

Mustaine is a legend and arguably the greatest metal guitar player of them all. But he's an insecure guy - reading his autobiography I was pretty shocked by that.

[loucap81]

You guys call yourself Dave fans? NBT was a great song. The lyrics were clever and YFLM had some gems on it.

Dave outside VH was all over the place. Songs that tried to sound like VH were just bombastic, childish nonsense, like ALAE the song.

Tell The Truth stands as one of my all time faves, as well as Don't Piss Me Off, Goin places and many more. The Diamond Dave album is almost as bad as VH3

So it's not OK to dislike No Big 'Ting, but it's OK to dislike Diamond Dave, if you still want to call yourself a "true DLR fan"? Seems rather arbitrary to me.

I've said many times that I'm a classic VH fan first, DLR fan second. I'm definitely a die-hard classic VH fan. I'm not a die-hard DLR fan, as in, I wouldn't go to great lengths to see him personally, I don't have undying devotion towards him personally, and I don't care about his non-VH endeavors. Very little of his solo music truly excites me, thrills me the way that VH does.

I get the whole, "Hey it's Dave being Dave, how awesome is that!" thing. And I think it's great that ANY artist do whatever they please with complete disregard for what people expect from them. I appreciate that Dave was just being himself with No Big 'Ting but it's a shitty song, sorry.

[ELVIS]

I like it...

Cheating' Heart Cafe sucks balls though...

[Terry]

i cringed the whole way through it ... it was like spinal tap at a couple of points ....the beginning through to the end

While I've never been a Metallica superfan, I have liked more than a bit of what they've put out. The overall impression I got from watching Some Kind Of Monster was that by the time the film was made, Metallica had ran out of inspiration. It felt like the group was existing because it was a business, and the music was just product churned out Pro Tools-style to keep the money machine rolling.
Nothing that exceptional or revelatory there, but it was kind of sad to see a band that initially became successful despite not getting radio airplay and not playing the MTV music video game had morphed into a bunch of posers reliant on career coaches and therapists to make music.

[Yount]

Songs that tried to sound like VH were just bombastic, childish nonsense, like ALAE the song.

Well I beg to differ Nige, you need to have a squiz of the lyrics my friend. A little ain't enough might just be Dave's defining statement in rock 'n' roll and in life.
The video, by the way, was parody plus and funny as hell, perhaps his best clip. Unfortunately Dave had been expanding during the 80's and the general public simply got left (or chose to stay) behind to "rock out" over Poison and Unskinny Bop etc. Catchy enough songs, but generic infantile lyrics and themes in comparison to Dave (and if you listen to the ALAE 1991 album you can hear that Dave tried his best to keep it simple.)
I felt sorry for the guy. He couldn't win. If he tried to re-create the CVH sound and feel he suffered with the comparison to the past. If he did his own thing he was just a wacky goofball movie star wanna-be grasping at the few last straws to stay in the spotlight.

[vandeleur]

For my two cents Alae is my fav Dave solo album, I think show time , dog town shuffle , drop in the bucket are songs that totally work for me ... I think Dave is on top form lyrically and Jason Becker is fan fucking tastic on it. I think he has The chops on it but he also plays with a lot of feeling ... Fuck it am listening to it in the car later .....god , pie , the whole routine :D

[ashstralia]

agree. cracker of an album, and kicked me up the bum guitar wise.

[Yount]

I played ALAE almost as much as ADKOT this past Australian summer. I found it amongst a bunch of tapes and spun it in my car. But unfortunately the tape ran out at the end of Showtime

[LoungeMachine]

Clearly the ONLY "Blunder" of Roth's career, was not seeking career advice from the Syphiliss infected, molten nuthouse that passes off as the Roth Army.....

[ashstralia]

hey, if that's an insult Lounge, fuck you!!!


if not, my apologies and as you were.

[LoungeMachine]

How about FUCK YOU LOUNGE regardless, ash.......



By the by.....hasn't global climate change killed off your stupid island yet? wtf?

[ashstralia]

nah... the witch got her carbon tax. we're not going anywhere in a hurry bro; i may need to learn cantonese though..

[golitely]

In retrospect, I think his biggest mistake was putting out the CFTH EP and the videos. While they were cool at the time and certainly made him a household name during that period, I think they cemented the pop culture image of him as a RnR clown that he hasn’t shaken.
Prob is he was probably about 5 years ahead of his time. MTV started experimenting with comedy format (I seem to remember Ben Stiller had some sort of show in the early 90s maybe…anyone recall that?) he might have been able to parlay that Picasso Bros stuff into something interesting. The idea of a feature length film still makes me cringe, but short format, particularly if worked into another credible show (like the Simpsons when they first started) could have worked (maybe).
Of course, had the rest of VH not totally fluked out with Hagar…

[ZahZoo]

Top 5 Roth blunders

1. Leaving Van Halen - 1985
2. Returning to Van Halen but blowing the deal over Ed's hip and premature band ejaculation - 1996
3. Returning to Van Halen but letting the hands fall off the clock and allowing lawyers to get involved - 2000/1
4. Touring with Hagar - 2002
5. Not hiring the Roth Army for PR, career guidance, hair styling advice, wardrobe malfunctions, relationship guidance and... dog poop patrol...

[DONNIEP]

5. Not hiring the Roth Army for PR, career guidance, hair styling advice, wardrobe malfunctions, relationship guidance and... dog poop patrol...

They can hire me as Chief Whore and Midget Wrangler...