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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32942

    #31
    Originally posted by DONNIEP
    Marie Osmond...yum yum.
    The girls were flicking their beans off to Donny and the boys were burping the snake off to Marie.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Zing!
      Veteran
      • Oct 2011
      • 2363

      #32
      John5's playing on Zombie's 'Hellbilly Deluxe 2' is stellar - and he rips it live.

      Never seen a single second of TMS, so I can't comment on it - but Haggar's continued insistence that he did anything meaningful or memorable during his tenure in Van Halen is only relevant to the 35-45 soccer moms and yuppie, Hummer-driving nitwits that think they're rocking out when the blast 'Feels So Good.'
      My karma just ran over your dogma.

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      • ZahZoo
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Jan 2004
        • 9172

        #33
        Originally posted by DONNIEP
        For anybody who didn't see the show and wonders if they missed anything - hell fucking no. You didn't miss anything. The show sucked and they didn't get into any "dirt" on VH - which they said they'd get in to. It was a fucking bullshit session and sucked balls.
        I don't think there's any more "dirt" worth hearing about from that side of the camp...
        "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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        • gbranton
          Veteran
          • Aug 2005
          • 1847

          #34
          Originally posted by Zing!
          Haggar's continued insistence that he did anything meaningful or memorable during his tenure in Van Halen....
          Actually he didn't insist anything of the kind last night. He said the biggest hit Van Halen ever had was Jump, said that every time they played Panama the crowd went crazy and that Ed was an amazing player, but mainly he kept his trap shut about VH, just like he should have done all along. Anthony said he was hurt by the way he found out he was replaced but said that he understood it and was complimentary of Wolfie, all in all I would say it was a decent performance..........too bad they didn't do that from the start.
          "Don't want 'em to get you goat, don't show 'em where it's hid." - David Lee Roth

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          • Fairwrning
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 11371

            #35
            I find it funny that Sammy cant go anywhere without Mike..everybody that talks to Sammy wants VH qustions answered..how many Chickenfoot questions were there?

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            • TJMKID
              Veteran
              • Mar 2004
              • 1533

              #36
              Originally posted by Zing!
              Never seen a single second of TMS, so I can't comment on it - but Haggar's continued insistence that he did anything meaningful or memorable during his tenure in Van Halen is only relevant to the 35-45 soccer moms and yuppie, Hummer-driving nitwits that think they're rocking out when the blast 'Feels So Good.'

              That's why I'm continually miffed when Spamborita keeps getting asked back to be a guest on a show about metal and hard rock



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              • TJMKID
                Veteran
                • Mar 2004
                • 1533

                #37
                Originally posted by Fairwrning
                I find it funny that Sammy cant go anywhere without Mike..everybody that talks to Sammy wants VH qustions answered..how many Chickenfoot questions were there?


                50% of Chickenshit songs are about Kari Hagar's dusty old vagg --- the other 50% are about tequila.

                Nobody wants to talk to Spam or Mike unless they're talking about Van Halen.



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                • chi-town324
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 2618

                  #38
                  the only negative thing Mike said was that they took his image off the album covers when Wolfie joined...and that was a bullshit move and he as right...he also said he did have some input on some of the old demos that were polished up and put on the new album....they asked about going after royalties and he said it wasn't worth it......now how much input he had well never know

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                  • VHscraps
                    Veteran
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1874

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DONNIEP
                    I must be the only guy on this site that knows next to nothing about John5
                    No, Donnie - count me as a fellow ignoramus. I did look him up once, though, after reading people on here talk about him, and I saw that he was in Marilyn Manson's band and appeared in a video that was quite entertaining - for a song called 'Mobscene', which to me was memorable for the slab-heavy guitar and the girls cavorting in the oversized cocktail glasses (as below). I remembered that being heavy rotation on MTV in about 2003.

                    THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32942

                      #40
                      Originally posted by TJMKID
                      That's why I'm continually miffed when Spamborita keeps getting asked back to be a guest on a show about metal and hard rock



                      "His cock was so hard I broke my teeth on it." --Sammy Hagar--
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • DONNIEP
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 13373

                        #41
                        Originally posted by chi-town324
                        the only negative thing Mike said was that they took his image off the album covers when Wolfie joined...and that was a bullshit move and he as right...he also said he did have some input on some of the old demos that were polished up and put on the new album....they asked about going after royalties and he said it wasn't worth it......now how much input he had well never know
                        Exactly. And not one of the three dolts asked him about his input on the records. I would have asked did he play on all the records? Did he write his own bass lines? Why didn't he ever tell Eddie to fuck himself and then cranked his bass amp to 11?
                        And how does he feel sitting next to that stupid fuck who called him "a spineless wonder"???

                        Of course, that would mean no more Sammy on the show and no Eddie in the future. Big fucking deal.
                        American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                        • fraroc
                          Commando
                          • Jun 2012
                          • 1172

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Cato
                          this thread is about these queers?

                          This is fucking golden.
                          How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-R

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                          • VHscraps
                            Veteran
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 1874

                            #43
                            Originally posted by DONNIEP
                            Exactly. And not one of the three dolts asked him about his input on the records. I would have asked did he play on all the records? Did he write his own bass lines? Why didn't he ever tell Eddie to fuck himself and then cranked his bass amp to 11?
                            And how does he feel sitting next to that stupid fuck who called him "a spineless wonder"???

                            Of course, that would mean no more Sammy on the show and no Eddie in the future. Big fucking deal.
                            After ADKOT came out I remember a Mike interview where he said that 'She's The Woman' was a song already in the band"s repertoire when he joined.

                            This discussion has taken place before on here - it may be unfair to bass players and drummers (amongst others), but song publishing is based on what is transcribed into notation to 'represent' a song - and that is words and top line melody (vocal line) and chord changes. That's it. That's sheet music for ya - and that's what the whole music publishing industry is built upon.

                            Whatever Mike contributed, if it wasn't lyrics, vocal melodies or the chord structure then the stance of 'I wouldn't pursue the matter to get royalties' is just totally disingenuous.

                            There is probably fack all, from a publishing point, to pursue - unless it was something along the lines of, 'oh, back in '74, we swore to be all for one and one for all, no matter what'.
                            THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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                            • atomicpnk47
                              Head Fluffer
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 364

                              #44
                              I usually record TMS and watch it at a later date but when I saw the cut ins for the Sam & Mike show I immediately canned the recording. Wasn't going to watch that ball licking fest....

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                              • ZahZoo
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 9172

                                #45
                                Originally posted by DONNIEP
                                Exactly. And not one of the three dolts asked him about his input on the records. I would have asked did he play on all the records? Did he write his own bass lines? Why didn't he ever tell Eddie to fuck himself and then cranked his bass amp to 11?
                                And how does he feel sitting next to that stupid fuck who called him "a spineless wonder"???

                                Of course, that would mean no more Sammy on the show and no Eddie in the future. Big fucking deal.
                                There's no reason to ask or bother with the first two questions... Mike has covered this before. He played and his bass was recorded for every song VH released with the exception of some of III and the 3 abortions released on BOBW. He did contribute backing vocals on III & the 3 abortions.

                                If you read most of the interviews in which every Van Halen album was recorded the band played live as a threesome in the studio and it's known fact that overdubs and punch in's were very few and far between... even for most of Ed's guitar solos. The main exceptions were keyboards and vocals being done separately.

                                In the writing department... Ed generally established the primary rhythm and riff structures which established the root key in which the songs were played. Mike took over from there and then aligned the bass composition within Al's drum structure and the vocal melody. So in technical terms Mike composed the bass portion around and within Ed and Al's parts... also aligned with Dave and that other asshole's vocal melodies.

                                All this talk and the basis for even questioning this... stems from internet bullshit that fools and fuckin idiots made up to put down Mike's playing ability and stature in the band's legacy from 1974 -2004 because he made a poor choice in friends and musical alliances with the red jackass.

                                Mike was an integral part of the Van Halen sound and legacy of debauchery for 30 years. You can't take that away by replacing his picture on an album cover... the heart of it is in every record album, cassette, 8-track, CD and DVD produced with the name Van Halen on it... Although Mike's voice and bass didn't appear on ADKOT or the writing credits... there's a touch of him and his spirit on that record from the 6 or so songs retooled by Ed and Wolf from original VH demos.
                                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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