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  • loucap81
    Head Fluffer
    • Apr 2012
    • 450

    How much does the setlist mean to you?

    I know this has been somewhat of a controversial topic and I am not trying to stir up shit, be negative or ungrateful or anything like that. I've seen VH 20 times since 2007 and spent thousands of dollars on this band between tickets and the cost of traveling. While that doesn't make my opinion more qualified than anyone else's, the point is that I'm a sincere fan and no one wants this thing to keep going and be great more than I do.

    Alright let's say Van Halen decides to do another run of dates, maybe to make up the shows they had planned for the summer of 2012. At least one of the shows is in your hometown. If you knew, with 100% certainty, that the setlist would be the exact-same 90 minute setlist they did in Sydney, at every single show, would you pay to see that? Assume that AVH and WVH are laying down the rhythm section just fine, EVH is playing as well as he did in 2012, and Dave has made a full recovery and his voice is at or approaching 2007-08 quality.

    I for one would not. If this were the reunion tour I would because I was just that damn excited about it. But the novelty of the reunion has worn off, plus I'm done with pulling stunts like that because it's just too damn expensive. Last year I knew they were mixing it up; if not for that I probably only would have hit a couple shows instead of the 7 shows I hit.

    I would even be fine with a 110-120 minute show that I KNEW would be a copy of one of the 7 shows I saw in 2012. But 90 minutes, with nothing that I didn't already hear last year, with about 30 of those minutes devoted to solos, covers, and Dave talking before Ice Cream Man...not going to cut the mustard anymore.

    Now I'd be shocked if this scenario actually happened, I'd have to think the 90 minute, no-deep-cut setlist was only because of the festival constraints. But I'd like to see how much the setlist does or does not factor into your decision to see the band at this point.

    Here was the Sydney setlist for easy reference:


    1. Unchained
    2. Runnin' With the Devil
    3. She's the Woman
    4. Romeo Delight
    5. Tattoo
    6. Everybody Wants Some!!
    7. Somebody Get Me a Doctor
    8. China Town
    9. (Oh) Pretty Woman
    10. Drum Solo
    11. You Really Got Me
    12. Dance the Night Away
    13. I'll Wait
    14. Hot for Teacher
    15. Beautiful Girls
    16. Ice Cream Man
    17. Panama
    18. Guitar Solo
    19. Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love
    20. Jump
    19
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  • Va Beach VH Fan
    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
    • Dec 2003
    • 17913

    #2
    Are you only narrowing your question to US, meaning CVH fanatics, Lou ??

    Because the thing that stood out to me reading your poll description is that the VAST majority of music fans going to see VH in concert are not fanatical dumbasses like us....

    Ya know ??
    Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

    "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

    "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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    • loucap81
      Head Fluffer
      • Apr 2012
      • 450

      #3
      Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
      Are you only narrowing your question to US, meaning CVH fanatics, Lou ??

      Because the thing that stood out to me reading your poll description is that the VAST majority of music fans going to see VH in concert are not fanatical dumbasses like us....

      Ya know ??
      Not narrowing to anyone.

      I'd expect mostly "Yes" responses from people outside of North America who have never seen them before. However I'd guess the majority of people who will read this thread 1) live in the US or Canada and 2) have seen VH by now, and that will certainly factor in to the responses.

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      • twonabomber
        formerly F A T
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Jan 2004
        • 11294

        #4
        If they hit CLE I would absolutely go.

        The only local DLR show I missed since '86 was the YFLM tour. Hell I even roadtripped Toledo in '86, if two hours drive counts as a roadtrip.
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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          If Dave was a sure fire thing I might be inclined to pay it...

          But generally no...

          I've spent enough on Van Halen that they're going to have to up the ante...


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          • DLR Bridge
            ROCKSTAR

            • Mar 2011
            • 5479

            #6
            I got my tickets for last years show before having a clue what they were going to play. I would expect the same scenario should they throw out some US dates post Japan.

            I think I want to bring my oldest to a show, so the set list won't be a factor, I suppose. But I am done with pricey tickets. Cheap seats are going to have to do.

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            • Northern Girl
              Full Member Status

              • Jan 2004
              • 3958

              #7
              I hope they never tour again!
              Same ole song and dance...

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              • fraroc
                Commando
                • Jun 2012
                • 1172

                #8
                Even though unlike FUCKFACE I enjoyed the Oz show....when it comes to the setlist, I'll always stand by this for the 2013-14 US tour (hopefully)


                1. Intro/Aint Talkin' 'Bout Love
                2. You Really Got Me
                3. Alex Van Halen Drum Solo
                4. Hot For Teacher
                5. Runnin' With The Devil
                6. Tattoo
                7. And The Cradle Will Rock...
                8. Intruder/Pretty Woman
                9. She's The Woman
                10. Outta Love Again
                11. D.O.A
                12. Unchained
                13. Panama
                14. Big River
                15. Wolfgang Van Halen Bass Solo/So This Is Love?
                16. I'll Wait (This song is better live than in the studio, so shut it)
                17. As Is
                18. On Fire
                19. Ice Cream Man
                20. Everybody Wants Some!!
                21. Blood And Fire
                22. Eddie Van Halen Guitar Solo (316,Cathedral,Eruption mixed in with the usual wankery)
                23. Dance The Night Away

                (ENCORE)

                24. 1984/Jump
                25. Beats Workin'


                I know that my "ideal" setlist is missing songs like Hear About It Later, Romeo Delight, Little Guitars etc...but in real life some of the ADKOT songs could be swapped out and replaced with deeper cuts.



                Side note, I'd give my left nut to see VH attempt to do Me Wise Magic live, preferably as one of the encores.
                How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-R

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                • DLR Bridge
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Mar 2011
                  • 5479

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Northern Girl
                  I hope they never tour again!
                  I do recall you stating in your show review that you'd had your fill of live VH. I agreed completely, at the time. That VH bug has a way of getting back in your blood stream, though.

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                  • clarathecarrot
                    Full Member Status

                    • May 2010
                    • 3588

                    #10
                    I would like a new album of new songs if DLR and ED think they can swing it..I want new written material that is about today.

                    and a tour of that that is my want...I will take anything else they do live as a show and I don't care what they play.

                    They are going to play tunes people recognize. We want to sing along.

                    ADKOT was old songs from the 70s' they are great extreemly well done rehashes. but still have the original CVH sound .

                    I would like for them to step out of the box and it is time and they will win with it.

                    I don't want "10 albums in the can" songs I want to see if the guys can get with the program of today.

                    Eds guitar doesn't sound the same, Daves voice is different I want them to write and play within todays VH..who they are, maybe with some Wolf badassed bass driving a few tunes let the kid stretch his legs so to speak.

                    I have no issue with the set list recognizable tour music is what sells tickets...ding dongs.
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                    • Halen High
                      Commando
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 1231

                      #11
                      As I live in Australia and Saturday's Sydney show was the first time Van Halen had ever come here with Dave, I really wasn't fussed about the set-list. But if I lived in North America and had already seen them 10-20 times, then the set-list would be important. At the end of the day the most important thing is...Van Halen is performing a kick-arse set-list of music from their classic and current eras.

                      My ideal set-list for their next show:
                      1. Romeo Delight
                      2. Ain’t Talkin' 'Bout Love
                      3. Unchained
                      4. You Really Got Me
                      5. She’s The Woman
                      6. Alex Van Halen Drum Solo
                      7. Hot For Teacher
                      8. Runnin' With The Devil
                      9. Tattoo
                      10. And The Cradle Will Rock...
                      11. Push Comes To Shove
                      12. As Is
                      13. Big River
                      14. In A Simple Rhyme
                      15. Everybody Wants Some
                      16. Panama
                      17. Little Guitars
                      18. So This Is Love?
                      19. Jamie’s Cryin’
                      20. Stay Frosty
                      21. Dance The Night Away
                      22. Eddie Van Halen Guitar Solo (whatever he wants to play)
                      23. Feel Your Love Tonight

                      (Encore)

                      24. Light Up The Sky
                      25. Jump

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                      • Halen High
                        Commando
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 1231

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Northern Girl
                        I hope they never tour again!
                        Now I have seen them and thoroughly enjoyed the experience, my preference is for new music on a consistent basis. But before they call it a day, I would like to see them go places they haven't been for a long time, such as South America and Europe.

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                        • DONNIEP
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 13373

                          #13
                          Unless VH shows up with a completely new show - set list, stage, lighting - no. I'm not gonna shell out 150 + for a ticket. I've paid Wolfie enough money for him to be a paper weight. I know, he is Jesus Christ reincarnated and we all should bow down to him. But I'm done. If things stay even remotely like they are now - I won't go. I dig the job Wolfie's doing. But I ain't paying for it again. Bring back Mikey and I'm there. I know a lot of you guys are "it ain't Van Halen without Wolfie", but I'm not in that crowd. Sorry.
                          American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                          • TitanTopper
                            Groupie
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 61

                            #14
                            To my knowledge, they have never played Drop Dead Legs live...except a quick tease in a sound check. Can someone please explain to me, why??? Is it difficult to play? Does the solo at the end with overlapping tracks make it too difficult to pull off live? Is it one of those songs that Ed just hates? It is one of my absolute favs!! Someone, help explain!?!?
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                            • jhale667
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 20929

                              #15
                              The irony of threads and comments about playing the "hits" for me is in a past life I once sat in the room with another famous 80s band when the singer was yelling "Do you really think we WANT to play (insert 'hit' here) the 27,000th time? Do you think we wouldn't still get crucified if we didn't play it?"


                              I'll go see them again, sure. If they dig out a few more gems and switch things up even a little bit I'll be happy, but I don't expect them to tour successfully behind a diehard fan, deep-cut only setlist.
                              Originally posted by conmee
                              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                              That is all.

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                              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                              Originally posted by Isaac R.
                              Then it's really true??

                              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
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                              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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