DLR - Bandannafest Tour 2014 ?

[WARF's Vagina]

You're trying awfully hard to make someone think you're LoungeMachine but I don't think anyone's buying it.

How? Because I use the gulp smilie? Didn't know there were restrictions sockfucker?

[cadaverdog]

How? Because I use the gulp smilie? Didn't know there were restrictions sockfucker?

There isn't as far as I know dicklicker. But that's a Lounge trademark smiley. A more appropriate one for you is a faggot smiley giving another one a blow job.

[WARF's Vagina]

Listen sockfucker I and anyone else for that matter can use any smilie they wish. I do not know LoungeMachine from a hole in the wall no offense intended its just a smilie.

now kindly go fuck yourself and head on back to DLRF with your teeth in place and head held high.

[Satan]

There isn't as far as I know dicklicker. But that's a Lounge trademark smiley.

It is?

Funny, I always thought that was a FORD trademark, because it looks like a pint of stout, and it goes with his whole Beercyclopedia beer review thing.

On the other horn, nobody can dispute YOUR trademark smiley......

[cadaverdog]

Listen sockfucker I and anyone else for that matter can use any smilie they wish. I do not know LoungeMachine from a hole in the wall no offense intended its just a smilie.

now kindly go fuck yourself and head on back to DLRF with your teeth in place and head held high.

I hold my head high wherever I go shitfer.

[cadaverdog]

It is?

Funny, I always thought that was a FORD trademark, because it looks like a pint of stout, and it goes with his whole Beercyclopedia beer review thing.

On the other horn, nobody can dispute YOUR trademark smiley......

Fords trademark is three letters. a B, a C and an E. Put them together and you get BCE.

[chefcraig]

If you're under, say, 45-55 years of age there's no reason why you would know who he is, really, unless you are an archeologist of rock'n'roll.

None of the bands he was in had much impact outside the US. I think his biggest UK hit was 'Hang on Sloopy', by the McCoys - in 1965, with Derringer on vocals and guitar, which has a kinda reggae lilt to it, which is unusual for that time. It reached #5 in the UK and #1 in the US.

Apart from that, I think I next heard him on a CBS UK sampler in 1980, called Killer Watts, but even then he seemed like somebody whose career the record company were trying to revive on the back of the new interest in metal.
I later owned some Edgar Winter Band albums, but have to admit - despite them being an influence on VH - I never really got into them.

If you were doing a Family Tree of VH, though - like Pete Frame's famous Rock Family Trees (see example at this LINK) - they'd be in there, not just because of the Edgar Winter connection with DLR's solo stuff, but also because his band on They Only come Out at Night featured future H@gar collaborators Ronnie Montrose and ... the drummer, whose name escapes me - ah, Chuck Ruff, and earlier his bass player Bill Church.

If you were of a certain age (like mine) in the early to mid-1970s, Rick Derringer was a God-like figure. (Notice I didn't exactly commit to saying God, Mr. Clapton.) This is a guy that went from "Hang On Sloopy" (a track as memorable and ingrained in the American brain-trust as "Louie, Louie," "Wild Thing" and "Crimson & Clover" as anything else in the garage rock genre) to being the second guitar in the astonishing Johnny Winter And, a band that was nothing short of an unstoppable force of nature live. Just check out the Johnny Winter And Live album for a hint. Two lead guitarists, showing little if any interest in what the other was doing, just blasting away, at times defiantly playing over each other. Pure magic, in a dissonant way that would make Lou Reed pleased. He then put out the All American Boy album, a bizarre attempt at attracting youngsters with a glam-rock facade to it, helped by the fact that at the time, Derringer was a dead wringer for Suzi Quatro. The tunes were equally awful.

Somewhere along the line, Derringer ended up in the producer's chair. He put together what is unarguably Johnny Winter's finest album Still Alive And Well, then moved on to play and produce the Edgar Winter Group. This was an odd move, as Edgar inexplicably believed that pairing Donnie & Marie-ish pop tunes (largely written by Dan Hartman) with gut-bucket blues and soul would be a good idea. Needless to say, for kids growing up in the mid-1970s, this was a baffling, if not a non-graspable concept and a fairly hard sell. (Of course, I liked it, then again I like everything short of opera).

Next came the outstanding Derringer band, which was pretty much an update of Johnny Winter And, with two lead guitars creating a bunch of noise. And I swear to you, I'll go to my grave believing Edward Van Halen got the idea for covering The Kinks' "You Really Got Me" from that Derringer live album, although the bum (EVH) will never own up to it, despite the fact that VH regularly covered a handful of Edgar Winter Group tunes in their bar band/backyard party days.

In any event, Derringer went on to play with Steely Dan, Cindi Lauper, Hulk Hogan and Weird Al. Hey, ya have to put food on the table somehow...

And yeah, I admit to being "an archeologist of rock'n'roll". Beats the living shit out of being a prostate examiner, ya know? :D

[Diamondjimi]

Yeah, it really doesn't make sense. No idea wtf to make of it.

He did mention this tour on the Artie Lange show recently.

I thought Artie Lang dropped dead after he sliced his own throat....

[twonabomber]

Artie stabbed himself in the stomach, not throat.

[DLR Bridge]

... And I swear to you, I'll go to my grave believing Edward Van Halen got the idea for covering The Kinks' "You Really Got Me" from that Derringer live album, although the bum (EVH) will never own up to it, despite the fact that VH regularly covered a handful of Edgar Winter Group tunes in their bar band/backyard party days.

Hmmm. Interesting. I'm going to have to check that out. Have you seen the clips posted at the Van Halen Rising Tumblr site? There's one of a Grand Funk Railroad song that clearly inspired the beginning of So This Is Love? and another of a song by Cactus that the crash intro of Eruption was clearly taken from. I had also once heard a piece of music by Tommy Bolin and Jan Hammer that sounded a lot like the beginning of Hot For Teacher. I don't think there's anything wrong with this sort of nod or influence, but I agree with you Chef, that some acknowledgement would be nice.

[chefcraig]

Hmmm. Interesting. I'm going to have to check that out. Have you seen the clips posted at the Van Halen Rising Tumblr site? There's one of a Grand Funk Railroad song that clearly inspired the beginning of So This Is Love? and another of a song by Cactus that the crash intro of Eruption was clearly taken from. I had also once heard a piece of music by Tommy Bolin and Jan Hammer that sounded a lot like the beginning of Hot For Teacher. I don't think there's anything wrong with this sort of nod or influence, but I agree with you Chef, that some acknowledgement would be nice.

Indeed, the GF song is called "Footstomping Music," which is obviously a boogie that just about every garage band in the United States learned to play in that era. The Cactus tune is called "Let Me Swim," which should sound astoundingly familiar at the beginning (see below).

[chefcraig]

The Bolin/Hammer track comes from drummer Billy Cobham's Spectrum album, from a song called "Quadrant 4." Honestly, it's hard to tell who plays what.