psycho ex-wife taking a cheap stab at Dave...Billy Sheehan included

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  • ZahZoo
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 9172

    #31
    I get that Van Halen is a big deal... Duh.

    But I've always wondered why Hagar's stint in VH seems to be more of a defining and relevant aspect of his career that always gets brought up??

    Seriously... Montrose seems to be more of his defining legacy in rock history. Then his mediocre solo career that entertained the hoople-heads for years before and after VH... then add in his "super-group" crap as side dishes.

    I just don't get it... what he did with Van Halen musically just hasn't stood up over time. It had it's brief time in the spot light and charts but none of it could be considered huge " Timeless classics" along side his Montrose work and even some of his sappy solo hits...

    What is it that draws the media and simple minds back to the Van Hagar stint... the soap-opera and drama?
    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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    • Zing!
      Veteran
      • Oct 2011
      • 2363

      #32
      That there are people out there that actually prefer the Van Haggar era over CVH never ceases to amaze me. For instance: I have a co-worker that claims to love Van Halen - loves my stripey EVH mural in my Garage Majal. Loves my 6 (soon to be 7) framed =VH= albums. But asked me one day, "How come you don't have any of the Sammy albums up there?" To which I naturally replied, "That's not Van Halen." To which HE replied, "Oh, you're one of those..." To which I replied, "Dave or the grave, baby."

      A line was drawn after that, and the dynamic of our friendship was never the same. I can't respect anyone that prefers Van Haggar music over the CVH era and ADKOT.
      My karma just ran over your dogma.

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      • DavidLeeNatra
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 10715

        #33
        Originally posted by Zing!
        That there are people out there that actually prefer the Van Haggar era over CVH never ceases to amaze me. For instance: I have a co-worker that claims to love Van Halen - loves my stripey EVH mural in my Garage Majal. Loves my 6 (soon to be 7) framed =VH= albums. But asked me one day, "How come you don't have any of the Sammy albums up there?" To which I naturally replied, "That's not Van Halen." To which HE replied, "Oh, you're one of those..." To which I replied, "Dave or the grave, baby."

        A line was drawn after that, and the dynamic of our friendship was never the same. I can't respect anyone that prefers Van Haggar music over the CVH era and ADKOT.
        and you know...he's a fucking cop!
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        • cadaverdog
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Aug 2007
          • 8955

          #34
          Originally posted by Zing!
          That there are people out there that actually prefer the Van Haggar era over CVH never ceases to amaze me.
          It doesn't surprise me because the kind of people who got into Van Halen when Sammy was the lead singer don't really know any better. Most of the shit that passed as music during the MTV video era blew goats but that's what they got used to hearing. I grew up listening to Zep, Cream, Hendrix, The Doors and such. That's the music I still listen to. They like the music they grew up listening to. If you thought the Sammy era VH stuff was good you probably don't like the Dave era stuff because that's two entirely different critters.
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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35755

            #35
            Originally posted by Carloscda
            He went out and purposely got Billy just to throw it up in Daves face and I'm surprised Billy feed into that bashing Dave crap?!
            In defence of Sheehan it was a charity show and he didn't actually bash Roth.

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            • DONNIEP
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Mar 2004
              • 13373

              #36
              Originally posted by ZahZoo
              What is it that draws the media and simple minds back to the Van Hagar stint... the soap-opera and drama?
              No. It's Sam's hair. I mean, come on, you gotta admit the guy had some awesome hair!
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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35755

                #37
                Originally posted by ZahZoo
                I get that Van Halen is a big deal... Duh.

                But I've always wondered why Hagar's stint in VH seems to be more of a defining and relevant aspect of his career that always gets brought up??

                Seriously... Montrose seems to be more of his defining legacy in rock history. Then his mediocre solo career that entertained the hoople-heads for years before and after VH... then add in his "super-group" crap as side dishes.

                I just don't get it... what he did with Van Halen musically just hasn't stood up over time. It had it's brief time in the spot light and charts but none of it could be considered huge " Timeless classics" along side his Montrose work and even some of his sappy solo hits...

                What is it that draws the media and simple minds back to the Van Hagar stint... the soap-opera and drama?
                Of course.

                If you interviewed Ben Johnson it would be difficult not to mention him becoming a national disgrace in 1988 even though he had a bit of a career before and afterwards.

                It's the same with Hagar....

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                • cadaverdog
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8955

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  In defence of Sheehan it was a charity show and he didn't actually bash Roth.
                  No one did. The only comment I heard about Dave was when he said something about Billy playing with "Diamond".
                  Beware of Dog

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                  • cadaverdog
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 8955

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DONNIEP
                    No. It's Sam's hair. I mean, come on, you gotta admit the guy had some awesome hair!
                    I know that's a joke but there's one thing about Sammy that makes some people like him. He gets out and about. He's constantly touring as a solo act or with a band and when he comes to town he gets on the radio and advertises himself. He doesn't spend all his time playing with his dog or hanging out in foriegn countries.
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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35755

                      #40
                      I wouldn't have a problem with Hagar if it wasn't for all the lying and bitching and general classlessness.

                      23 000 posts (help me!) and you won't find many if any complaining about Cherone.

                      I don't like his music but I also don't like 95% of music.

                      I don't waste time saying Justin Beiber is shit. Well not much time.
                      Last edited by Seshmeister; 05-07-2014, 10:32 PM.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59631

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan

                        Brett usually sided with UFF with those flame wars, and some of us got banned.... I think FORD is still banned in fact....
                        Well, actually I was banned after the Pasture Dump sheep took over Links and started being complete dickholes about it. The original UFFs never got that nasty with me. They knew where I stood, and I knew where they stood, and weren't going to agree on much, but it was basically all good. But this other bunch from Brad's pasture, that flock was rabid. So between them and some comments about the Lakers or whatever, Brett kicked me out.

                        He let me back in sometime around 2005 or so, but then he hired too many Busheep moderators and they whined about my political posts on the board. So he invented this ghey assed "barn" thing where I was allegedly exiled for a month. That was in September 2007. Brett really needs to update his calendar.........
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                        • cadaverdog
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 8955

                          #42
                          Originally posted by FORD

                          He let me back in sometime around 2005 or so, but then he hired too many Busheep moderators and they whined about my political posts on the board. So he invented this ghey assed "barn" thing where I was allegedly exiled for a month. That was in September 2007. Brett really needs to update his calendar.........
                          Somebody didn't care for your one sided political commentary? You must be joking.
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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 59631

                            #43
                            Originally posted by cadaverdog
                            Somebody didn't care for your one sided political commentary? You must be joking.
                            The current state of the "non music" forum at Links is the dictionary definition of "one-sided". And the crap that's tolerated over there these days puts the level of that commentary about .00000000002% to the left of StormFront.org.

                            It has never been that one sided on any other board I have ever seen.
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                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • cadaverdog
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 8955

                              #44
                              Originally posted by FORD

                              It has never been that one sided on any other board I have ever seen.
                              You only think that because 90% of the people who think you're full of shit politically don't want to get into a pissing contest with you and the other people who think like you. They just ignore what you say and move on to the next post.
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                              • Carloscda
                                Foot Soldier
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 666

                                #45
                                Yes that was a dig at Dave! Sam bashes Dave & VH every chance he gets!
                                On a rerun of That Metal show at the end of stump the trump, he goes yea I could've asked you a trivia question like whos the bass player in VH?

                                Dude except it get over it and move on You're out & The Diamond One is in Period!

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