But this is where we get into the whole "diehards" vs. "casual fans" debate, and we here at the Army are all pretty much "diehards"...almost to a fault.
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Originally posted by perilouspete
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I dig it Von...and not disputing any of that. I just didn't want to get into any revisionist history about whose hit "Jump" was, or Dave's true stance on that particular song.
You're 100% right. He will ALWAYS perform it. But not because he WANTS to...but because he HAS to.
Personally, I'd trade front row seats at a live performance of "Jump" for crappy seats at a live performance of MWM, CGTSNM, or virtually any of the other songs we haven't been treated to on the last two tours.Comment
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I deliberately skip it whenever it comes up on my iPod, or on the radio.
If they did it in the middle of a show, it would be a beer run/bathroom break for me. But since it's usually the encore, I brace myself and get through it.Originally posted by perilouspete
fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.Comment
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I did not hate Jump when it came out. I thought it was cool because it got one of my favorite bands on the radio constantly and stuck them at number one on the charts for a while but it is simply not a classic Van Halen song because a classic holds up. After one week of hearing it played nonstop on the radio, it got boring real quick like most pop driven songs. Now, it is just a sound filler and it is the one Van Halen song I do not care to ever hear again and yet it is their encore. I guess, what it accomplished forces them to play the dang thing but maybe at least change it up... maybe rewrite that fucker where the synths could be taken out of the song and basically do what Van Halen does best with a cover tune, cover Jump and make it sound harder and make Jump sound like a Van Halen song finally lolI got lost in the...Comment
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Jump is the perfect song that goes as a perfect backing trac for that video they did,... it is almost as if the song loses something without that awesome video it is like a pairing that needs to be, in order to dig the song correctly.
It may be one of the best song vid combos ever...so full of what we all were about way back then...yup.2015 once smoke 2 smoke ...poke
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Actually, I find Jump to be as Van Halen as any other song from the six pack. Sure, Ed smiled his way through and made Ted and Dave record the song, but it was Dave that completely made the song his own with the lyrics. There is absolutely no doubt that Dave has his hands all over that song as much as Eddie.
Now, I'll Wait on the other hand...I brought my pencil!!!Comment
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Actually, I find Jump to be as Van Halen as any other song from the six pack. Sure, Ed smiled his way through and made Ted and Dave record the song, but it was Dave that completely made the song his own with the lyrics. There is absolutely no doubt that Dave has his hands all over that song as much as Eddie.
Now, I'll Wait on the other hand...I got lost in the...Comment
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I obviously wasn't around when 1984 was released so my opinion is of a different mindset, but as a neutral party who didn't have to (over)hear Jump's dominance on radio and mainstream music outlets, I like them both as individual songs (well, Jump including 1984)...I can definitely feel the age, but that's more due to synth inclusion than the structure of the songs.
I think if you put either of the two songs on any other VH album, they're an immediate sore thumb. That said, there's enough experimentation throughout 1984 when considering Top Jimmy's "different" feel, to allow room for those two as well.
They're both infectious, hook-based songs that are aurally (insert joke here) pleasing. From that perspective, they share a common bond with every CVH song we know and love. As a guitarist myself, I'm rarely in favor of excluding the six string for synth, but the composer in me says those songs wouldn't have worked without prominent keys.
TL;DR I like Van Halen.Comment
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I'll Wait is a song that seems forced from Dave. You can tell just by the writing credits. Jump represents Dave's "belligerent optimism."I brought my pencil!!!Comment
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Love to see them mix it up with some different cuts from the last tour like DOA, Light Up The Sky, Simple Rhyme, So This Is Love, Little Guitars, Drop Dead Legs, Little Dreamer. Hearing Outta Love and Women In Love last tour was fantastic and they did them well.Comment
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Here's my set list
Dirty Movies
Light Up The Sky
Top Jimmy
The Full Bug
Sunday Afternoon In The Park/One Foot Out The Door
Just Like Paradise
You're No Good
Fools
When Push Comes To Shove
Stay Frosty
You Can't Get This Stuff No More
Secrets
On Fire
As Is
Little Guitars
Damn Good
Take Your Whiskey Home
Sinner's Swing
Yankee Rose
Big River
In A Simple Rhyme
Encore 1
Me Wise Magic
Encore 2
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Dave's head would explode if he tried singing Light Up The Sky even remotely like it should be sung. Some things are better not heard and this is one of them. No, if VH is gonna do LUTS then they better have Ralph back stage on the mic while Dave does his little sissified dance routine in the middle of the stage. Cause that's all Rock Star Cool, you know.Comment
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Dave's main style was the scream and he did it better in my opinion than anyone before him or after. The guy actually had control of it like a freaking instrument. Now what used to sound like a pissed off panther or wolf, sounds more like the moose getting torn to pieces by a panther or wolf. He can still do the high pitch 'whoop' noise but the other things sound like the old guys in the booth from the Muppet Show. Solution, if a old wolf can no longer howl, than growl a lot in the low register he still sings just fine in, if not better now... and he will be able to get all the cougars he wants lolI got lost in the...Comment
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