Just release the John 5 LP already...

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  • VHscraps
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    • Jul 2009
    • 1874

    #31
    Originally posted by DONNIEP
    The movie studio folded in October of 85. So I'm thinking you're right - sometime after October 85. Apparently he recorded it in NY and California.

    I just wish I could remember when he auditioned Gregg cause that would narrow it down.
    Funnily enough, I am sort of interested in something related (sort of related). Aside from how crap Dave's movie might have been, CBS Pictures was embattled by early 1985 due to corporate re-organisation following some sort of legal shenanigans. They were mostly known for making straight-to-TV fare, and had recently decided to go into theatrical film production -- Dave's movie being one of the movies that was not just a TV movie.

    Not long after they signed up Dave's movie, they appointed as a creative director ... Malcolm McLaren, former Sex Pistols manager. When the company fell apart, Dave lost his movie, and McLaren was out of a job.



    I'm intrigued by the idea that the two of them bumped into each other in the CBS Pictures canteen ... if so, it would be just one of a few Sex Pistols / Van Halen connections.
    Last edited by VHscraps; 01-29-2016, 09:52 PM.
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    • Seshmeister
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      • Oct 2003
      • 35755

      #32
      I think there were breathtaking amounts of Scarface style cocaine mounds involved in all of this.

      Reading the Dave movie script nowadays in the cold light of day it doesn't seem to me at least, the greatest thing ever however context is everything and also it would have been rewritten and improved before it was ever made.

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      • VHscraps
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        • Jul 2009
        • 1874

        #33
        you mean a lot of icing sugar around the mouth and nose - all those donuts!
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        • DONNIEP
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          • Mar 2004
          • 13373

          #34
          Originally posted by Seshmeister
          I think there were breathtaking amounts of Scarface style cocaine mounds involved in all of this.

          Reading the Dave movie script nowadays in the cold light of day it doesn't seem to me at least, the greatest thing ever however context is everything and also it would have been rewritten and improved before it was ever made.
          Yeah the script is...it's crap. I mean really stupid. But I agree it would have went through a lot of changes before filming started. I'm sure it would have been at least as good as the Picasso Bros videos. My teenage daughter loves those videos, watches the Cato DVD a lot. Usually I go in her room and watch them when they come up on the DVD and they're still great to watch.
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          • DONNIEP
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            • Mar 2004
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            #35
            Originally posted by Von Halen
            Yeah, back when you could present yourself as anything, and people believed you. Seems there's a lot of people that still believe all that stuff about this guy. Vandy, haven't you read the photographers account of the Dave "climbing" photo shoot? If not, it's gotta be posted somewhere around here. It's fucking hilarious.
            Yeah that's a great article.

            Sucks that it turns out Dave really was and is nothing like his image from back then. The guy's been the biggest rock star on the planet, can do anything he wants, have whatever he wants, and he's a miserable hermit. What a waste.
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            • Jetstream
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              • Dec 2011
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              #36
              We will not see the John 5 lp for one reason, that is because shimmy Dave I recall mentioned it was made for some kind of Broadway musical... hence, he will hold on to the dream of bringing that slippy slide floor out one more time for the music to be released lol
              I got lost in the...

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              • VHscraps
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                • Jul 2009
                • 1874

                #37
                Originally posted by Jetstream
                hence, he will hold on to the dream of bringing that slippy slide floor out one more time
                Oh lawd ...
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                • Von Halen
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                  • Dec 2003
                  • 7557

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Jetstream
                  We will not see the John 5 lp for one reason, that is because shimmy Dave I recall mentioned it was made for some kind of Broadway musical... hence, he will hold on to the dream of bringing that slippy slide floor out one more time for the music to be released lol
                  I don't think you're thinking of the same album I spoke to John 5 about.

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                  • DONNIEP
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                    • Mar 2004
                    • 13373

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Von Halen
                    I don't think you're thinking of the same album I spoke to John 5 about.
                    No, he's right - that's exactly how Dave described it. Then again, this is the same Dave that said every song on EEAS was written for the movie.

                    "And in the interim I've written and recorded an entire album of material with a fellow named John 5. It's called Somewhere Over the Rainbow Bar & Grill, and it was designed as a jukebox musical after seeing what the South Park fellows did. Those fellows are ardent Van Halen fans – they're been to Vegas and L.A. variously on the last tour. I saw the play [Book Of Mormon] and went home and we started putting together what I guess is called a jukebox musical, but it's not particular to Van Halen. Indeed we can create Van Halen material as the interstitials, but we have 15 songs ready to go, and it's my story. Indiana kid goes to the big city, sells his soul to the devil. Whatever Lola wants, Lola gets Dave. It's knockout stuff."
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                    • Von Halen
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                      • Dec 2003
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                      #40
                      Ok. Well nothing in that description says "Broadway musical", to me.

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                      • DONNIEP
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                        • Mar 2004
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by Von Halen
                        Ok. Well nothing in that description says "Broadway musical", to me.
                        Dave says he went and saw Book Of Mormon and then ran home and cranked out the record with John 5. Book Of Mormon is a Broadway musical. And Dave's own words say he wrote a musical and then talks about how it's the story of his life lol. He's saying its a Broadway musical album that would be the music for the show.

                        Now, having said that, we're talking about Dave saying all this. It's probably all bullshit. But that's what he said and he couldn't have made it any clearer, what he said the record was. Does that mean that's what it is? Hell no! The guy says whatever he thinks people want to hear.
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                        • Von Halen
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                          • Dec 2003
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                          #42
                          I think I don't give a fuck. I just want to hear it.

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                          • DONNIEP
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                            • Mar 2004
                            • 13373

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Von Halen
                            I think I don't give a fuck. I just want to hear it.
                            I agree. Was just posting what Dave said about it, you grumpy old homo
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                            • DavidLeeNatra
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                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10715

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Von Halen
                              Ok. Well nothing in that description says "Broadway musical", to me.
                              No...it says "concept album"...which is far worse...
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                              • FORD
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                                • Jan 2004
                                • 59630

                                #45
                                Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
                                No...it says "concept album"...which is far worse...
                                A concept album based on the Book of Mormon? Nah, it's been done......

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