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I've told this story many times, but in 1984 my buddy Barrie, who had been front row with me for the 4 previous tours, and I decided we were going to join the Navy. We go to the recruiting office, and we're talking to the recruiter. We get down to the nitty gritty and he tells us we'll need to go home and pack, as we'd be leaving in the morning. I'm like "In the morning as tomorrow morning?" He tells us yeah, that's the deal, we sign up and then leave in the morning. Now I don't know the real logic in that, other than they might want to move fast so you didn't have time to change your mind, back in those days, but that's the way he presented it. Anyway, I tell the guy "I can't leave tomorrow, Van Halen is in town next week". He tells me if I'm signing up, I'm leaving in the morning. Long story short, I never went in the Navy. Barrie did, and hated every second of it. I still have Barrie's full ticket from the show, that he never got to use.
Van Halen had the biggest stage show/production of any rock band touring in 1984, period. However, to me, the "stage show" and some of the production hurt the '84 tour. The flow of the show just wasn't as good with all the extracurricular crap. Dave had to change costumes every other song it seemed, do his sword routine, the long drum, bass and guitar solos. I don't know, the previous shows seemed more straight ahead in your face rock music shows, than productions. I never wanted VH to go stadiums, even though I would have loved to have been at the US Festival.
I still don't care for Stadium shows to this day. I saw several bands at the Pontiac Silverdome. Didn't care for that. I prefer a more intimate show.
That's strange, Von.... I signed up for the Navy in March 1983 but I didn't fly to San Diego for boot camp until November..... Maybe that recruiter had to fill his quotas faster, dunno....
I don't want to stress the stadium angle TOO much, but rather how VH would have been regarded had the original four members stayed together.....
But just for the fuck of it, I just looked at Zep's last US tour in '77.... There were a handful of stadiums, but the majority of the tour were arenas for multiple nights.....Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee RothComment
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That's strange, Von.... I signed up for the Navy in March 1983 but I didn't fly to San Diego for boot camp until November..... Maybe that recruiter had to fill his quotas faster, dunno....
I don't want to stress the stadium angle TOO much, but rather how VH would have been regarded had the original four members stayed together.....
But just for the fuck of it, I just looked at Zep's last US tour in '77.... There were a handful of stadiums, but the majority of the tour were arenas for multiple nights.....
I've always preferred smaller venues, but even more so these days.Comment
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My experience was a bit different as well. After I talked to the recruiter and did some tests in his office he took me to the AFEES station near downtown L A. After I finished a fairly long physical I was sent to an office full of squids and checked out a couple offers. I scored an 85 on my ASVAB so I had plenty of options. Since I was trying to enlist in one of the largest cities population wise in the U S most of the offers I got would put me on delayed enlistment for six months or more. Eventually I decided to join The Navy Reserve which got me in in three. When it was time to start boot I had to go back to the AFEES station and take another physical. I found out when I was in boot it's harder to join from a big city than a small town because all the Armed Forces branches have quotas. You could be a dumbass from some podunk little town and go right in but you could be a genius from L A or some other big city and wait 6 months to get in.Beware of DogComment
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True, I guess the point that I'm making is that post-1984 tour that's the trajectory that VH was on....
The vast majority of us saw VH on the 1984 tour... We saw firsthand what an event (not just a concert) Van Halen coming to town had become by that point....
I had the pleasure of seeing VH in southern California in San Diego that year... They were there for 2 nights over the weekend..... San Diego is a fairly large city, you couldn't go anywhere without people talking about VH.... Downtown, beaches, you name it.....
I just think, if done right (which is a big IF, of course, in hindsight), they could have been hitting that elite level of bands.... IMO their combination of fantastic music and stage shows gave it at least a possibility....
Like Von said, the 1984 tour in terms of production was SPECTACULAR. Still to this day one of the biggest I've ever seen in an arena, and definitely the biggest in terms of production that year. But it was also exactly like Von said in that because of all the costume changes, various solos and whatnot the band weren't able to do more than a few tunes in a row before somebody took a solo, or Dave told some jokes.
For me, Van Halen did hit that level of elite bands by the time 1984 rolled around. When they came to Rhode Island that year, it was all anybody was talking about in the weeks leading up to the show, keeping in mind that the show was in mid-March and only Jump had been released as a single off the 1984 album at that point.
The thing of it is, "that elite level of bands" seemingly goes hand in hand with massive stadium shows. I mean, The Stones 1989 Steel Wheels show was THE biggest stage show I've ever seen anywhere...ever. I wouldn't say it was the best show on a musical level, though.
I'm sure Van Halen could have went on to do shows on that scale. They had no problems headlining the US Festival in terms of confidence and command of the stage and the performance (keeping in mind they were all half bombed at that gig). It's just as well they didn't.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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One of these guys thinks the report was leaked to the Army from SAM's people....
Oy vey.....
Last edited by Va Beach VH Fan; 12-10-2016, 10:37 AM.Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee RothComment
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One of these guys thinks the report was leaked to the Army from SAM's people....
Oy vey.....
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I listen to a lot of podcasts but they need to improve the sound quality if they want a lot of people to go over 2 hours with that.
On their point, I don't think it's a good idea for us to respond to theories about who the sources are since people will just try and narrow it down.Comment
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I listen to a lot of podcasts but they need to improve the sound quality if they want a lot of people to go over 2 hours with that.
On their point, I don't think it's a good idea for us to respond to theories about who the sources are since people will just try and narrow it down.
I was going to tweet them that they're fucking idiots that obviously don't know how to read, but are very good at contradicting themselves. Fucking idiots.Comment
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