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    Dave wins!

    Thursday, August 05, 2004
    Copyright © Las Vegas Mercury

    Off the Charts: Van Halen
    The Roth-Hagar debate rages on


    By Newt Briggs newtbriggs@lasvegasmercury.com


    Just above the jiggling belly and shriveled liver of most diehard Van Halen fans is a small, empty heart shaped like David Lee Roth. Not that there was anything wrong with Sammy Hagar's workmanlike yowl, but Roth had the whole package: the swagger, the spandex, the unprecedented capacity for self-love. In concert, Roth soared above the crowd like the Bullwinkle balloon in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade; Hagar trudged along the ground with cinder blocks for shoes.

    Or did he? Hagar certainly sold a lot of records--almost 50 million at last count--and everyone can agree that Hagar was far superior to Gary Cherone, the much-maligned vocalist at the helm of Van Halen III. Looking back, it seems like Roth, who has taken every opportunity--large or small--to dis Hagar, has had as much to do with Hagar's public esteem as Hagar himself. In fact, it got so bad when the pair co-headlined the "Sans Halen" tour in 2002 that Hagar told Pennsylvania's Times Leader, "[Roth] acts like he's the fucking guy, and I'm just a piece of shit. He's demanding to close shows and all that. I want to slap this guy back down. Before, I was like, `Dave's a good guy, and he deserves to be in the light,' but we got out there, and he's acting like he's a god and I'm the opening act."

    (My ass he sold 50,000,000 records. G_R)

    Since then, Hagar has toned down his rhetoric a bit, but he continues to assert that Van Hagar is every bit the band that Roth's Van Halen was. No doubt the issue will be clarified this weekend when Van Halen's Hagar-fronted reunion tour rolls into the Mandalay Bay Events Center. Then again, there's nothing like pitching two rabid egomaniacs into the ring and letting them duke it out.


    The songs: Two of Roth's songs, "Runnin' with the Devil" and "Jump," are listed in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's 500 most influential songs of all time. Hagar's "Right Now" was used as the commercial soundtrack for Crystal Pepsi. Advantage: Roth.


    The hair: If you haven't seen Roth recently, you're probably unaware that his once-magnificent coiffure now looks a bit like the business end of a mop used on the cafeteria at a high-security correctional facility. Hagar, on the other hand, has cultivated a kinky white-man afro a la John Holmes--which, if not stellar, is at least passable as a rock star hairdo. As Hagar told the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, "I've got hair. Dave's hair isn't really hair. Up close, when I saw it, I was gagging. I was lucky to be born with a full head of hair." Advantage: Hagar.

    (Looks like a fucking birds nest G_R)


    The shape: Roth practices Kendo twice a week in a studio inside his house, so despite his advanced age and follicular difficulties, he can still do flying splits that put the Darkness' Justin Hawkins to shame. Hagar owns a tequila company, which basically means that he's fat and can only do what Salon.com described as "a series of oddly timed jumping jacks." Advantage: Roth.


    The show: Chances are, if you're not a skinny girl with ample jubblies, Roth isn't going to look at you twice. The gregarious Hagar, however, seems to want to be everyone's friend. According to Chicago Sun-Times music critic Jim Derogatis, Hagar tried on "a construction helmet, a fire helmet, a Cubs cap and a Sox cap" thrown by fans at a recent show in Chicago. In St. Louis, says the Post-Dispatch's Daniel Durchholz, he swathed himself in "T-shirts, a feather boa, a lei and hometown sports jerseys." In most cases, he even signed them and threw them back. Advantage: Hagar.

    (Nonsense, it's a show not an autograph session G_R)


    The style: Three decades after his first appearance with Van Halen, Roth still favors spandex, which he fills out rather admirably. By comparison, Hagar wears Jams--not shorts that look like Jams but actual Jams from 1984. Advantage: Roth.


    The verdict: Roth by a high kick and serviceable toupee: 3-2.

    Last edited by guwapo_rocker; 08-05-2004, 08:11 AM.
  • saint
    Foot Soldier
    • Feb 2004
    • 688

    #2
    <pre>
    Roth Sam
    The Songs 1 0
    The Hair irrelevant
    The Shape 1 0
    The Show 1 0
    Teh Style 1 0
    </pre>
    The Songs, the only record Van Hagar did that does not make you instantly sick is 5150, and still that should not even be mentioned in the same thread as the classic sixpack.

    The Hair What the f**k has that got to do with anything

    The Shape as with the hair Spammy fans could argue, What the f**k has that got to do with anything. But if you´r not fit you cant put on a good show, who wants to pay for a pushing strollers race?

    The Show It´s unfair Roth is a frontman extraordinaire, Spammy is old tired and has always been uninteresting and boring

    The Style I rest my case, Spammy looks more like a bum than a rock star.

    The verdict: Roth 4 Spammy 0
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    • Bob_R
      Full Member Status

      • Jan 2004
      • 3834

      #3
      Excellent. And, of course Roth wins. Anyone who knows VH knows that Roth is far superior. Only pillow biters prefer Hagar over Roth.
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      • edvanheineken
        Roadie
        • Feb 2004
        • 106

        #4
        Thanks G_R!! I laughed my ass of a few times with this one! The writer was funny on a few occasions.

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        • Figs
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jun 2004
          • 2945

          #5
          The "show" advantage to Hagar?? What the flying fuck is this guy talking about??? Who the hell puts on a better show than Dave out of anyone in rock history??


          By the way, the 50 million albums thing came up again:
          "Hagar certainly sold a lot of records--almost 50 million at last count"

          Wasn't it more like 16 with VH, and I highly doubt he moved 34 on his own.

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          • guwapo_rocker

            #6
            Yes I emailed the author and told him to get his head out of his ass.

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            • scottydabodi
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jun 2004
              • 2541

              #7
              Van Hagar sold 50,000,000, or Hagar including solo, and Montrose, and any other band he was in sold 50,000,000 total COMBINED? That's almost as many albums sold as Kenny G.
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              • Halen High
                Commando
                • Jul 2004
                • 1231

                #8
                Thanks for the read g_r!

                I wonder if the famously insecure Hagar has seen this?

                And why can't US journos check the facts on sales before writing a story? How hard can it be? Sammy's album sales propoganda has them all fooled!

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                • BIGBADZERO
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 374

                  #9
                  How does Roth win when he's not even in the running?

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                  • Matt White
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 20569

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BIGBADZERO
                    How does Roth win when he's not even in the running?
                    Its genetics, man!

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                    • Halen High
                      Commando
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 1231

                      #11
                      "How does Roth win when he's not even in the running?"

                      Because he's the greatest frontman ever.

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                      • Panamark
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 17161

                        #12
                        Roth wins, even if he never sings another note in his life.
                        He created Van Halen, he outsold Van Hagar 3-1...

                        50 Million Van Hagar Sales ?????
                        Sammy must have provided the stats for this article...
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