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  • Terry
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    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    Satch is a great guitar player but he can't write songs. Same for a guy like Yngwie Malmsteen. You can be a great technician but suck at telling a story. Then you have guys that can write great songs with three chords. Kurt Cobain had that down pretty well. I've been listening to a lot of Rolling Stones lately and for the most part their songs are good and amazingly they differ quite a bit. Kieth Richards and those guys really get what makes a good song. Sammy is a good charismatic salesman. He's the Joel Olsteen of rock. Yeah you see those mega church's full of suckers but they are packed and guys like Joel are raking it in and you sit there scratching your head why and why are those people so stupid. Well it's the same thing with Sammy fans.
    I mean, doubtless whatever my personal...I suppose apathy would be the right word, regarding Hagar's musical output...it'd be disingenuous to pretend Hagar hasn't had a degree of commercial/business success that plenty of rock stars (and probably not a few of Hagar's contemporaries) would be very happy with.

    Charisma? I suppose, as you say, to his fans Hagar may have a certain charisma. Not being cheeky with that comment, either: doubtless the fans who still go see Chickenfoot or go to Cabo Wabo or whatever think Hagar is a cool guy. I've never really thought Hagar was particularly charismatic as a frontman, though...or particularly distinguished as a frontman. He had a good rock voice, average lyrics, ran around stage a lot in his earlier years...basically presents himself as a confident, happy guy, but I've never associated that with any distinguishable charisma, myself.

    Doubtless Hagar's fans lap it up. Good for 'em, if that's what they enjoy. Far be it from me to scratch my head wondering what it is about the guy they like so much: just not my concern, you know?

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  • Nitro Express
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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Um, what? He may have some business sense, but he has no real charisma. I've always thought he sounds like a complete two-faced, try-hard douche ready to say anything even when I wanted to like him...
    Naw. Take some Alka Seltzer and watch Sam work a crowd of fat and aging Sammy fans. He's charismatic. You are saying he's not honest. You can be charismatic and be a phony. Let's call it the Cabo Wabo Church. Haha!

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  • Nitro Express
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    Originally posted by Terry
    I always thought it was kind of telling that even though Hagar has played with some good/great musicians, those collaborations haven't really produced much that approaches anything good, much less greatness.

    From Neal Schon to Eddie Van Halen to Joe Satriani, none of those combinations with Hagar have matched what any of those three guitarists did when they weren't playing with Hagar.

    The common factor in all of them? Hagar.
    Satch is a great guitar player but he can't write songs. Same for a guy like Yngwie Malmsteen. You can be a great technician but suck at telling a story. Then you have guys that can write great songs with three chords. Kurt Cobain had that down pretty well. I've been listening to a lot of Rolling Stones lately and for the most part their songs are good and amazingly they differ quite a bit. Kieth Richards and those guys really get what makes a good song. Sammy is a good charismatic salesman. He's the Joel Olsteen of rock. Yeah you see those mega church's full of suckers but they are packed and guys like Joel are raking it in and you sit there scratching your head why and why are those people so stupid. Well it's the same thing with Sammy fans.

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  • Terry
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    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    I had the misfortune of hearing Sammy's new song Trust Fund Baby. Pure word barf. I will say Sammy plays with some good musicians but Sammy really has no talent. What Sammy has is lots of charisma and he seems to have some business sense. Sam sells a good time to aging and sad people who still act like they are in high school. A Sammy show is nothing more than the next incarnation of Jimmy Buffet telling sad aging people to get drunk on Cabo Wabo and screw but no Sammy fan can get it hard enough to get it in. That's about it.
    I always thought it was kind of telling that even though Hagar has played with some good/great musicians, those collaborations haven't really produced much that approaches anything good, much less greatness.

    From Neal Schon to Eddie Van Halen to Joe Satriani, none of those combinations with Hagar have matched what any of those three guitarists did when they weren't playing with Hagar.

    The common factor in all of them? Hagar.

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  • Nickdfresh
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    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    ... What Sammy has is lots of charisma and he seems to have some business sense...
    Um, what? He may have some business sense, but he has no real charisma. I've always thought he sounds like a complete two-faced, try-hard douche ready to say anything even when I wanted to like him...

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  • twonabomber
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    I've seen the WS vid. Coverdale sounds OK.

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  • DavidLeeNatra
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    Originally posted by twonabomber
    Other than the word barf, I noticed he's singing in a lower register. Not a lot of high notes and screeching in that one.
    Typical average Hagar stuff...watch the new Whitesnake Video. At least it's full of references to the old times and well played

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  • twonabomber
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    Originally posted by Nitro Express
    I had the misfortune of hearing Sammy's new song Trust Fund Baby. Pure word barf.
    Other than the word barf, I noticed he's singing in a lower register. Not a lot of high notes and screeching in that one.

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  • Nitro Express
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    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
    Sammy beats off to the platforms it gives him to promote his stuff like Chicken Ass if nothing else...
    I had the misfortune of hearing Sammy's new song Trust Fund Baby. Pure word barf. I will say Sammy plays with some good musicians but Sammy really has no talent. What Sammy has is lots of charisma and he seems to have some business sense. Sam sells a good time to aging and sad people who still act like they are in high school. A Sammy show is nothing more than the next incarnation of Jimmy Buffet telling sad aging people to get drunk on Cabo Wabo and screw but no Sammy fan can get it hard enough to get it in. That's about it.

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  • Nickdfresh
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    Sammy beats off to the platforms it gives him to promote his stuff like Chicken Ass if nothing else...

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  • TAKIN WHISKEY
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    Agreed, she's wrong.

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  • Terry
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    Originally posted by twonabomber
    Sirius DJ just said she thinks Sammy is tired of the "dramedy" that is VH, but the way Sammy keeps inserting himself into it, I gotta say she's wrong.
    In terms of the amount of interview commentary specifically addressing a hypothetical 2019 Van Halen tour, Sammy has had more to say about the subject than Eddie, Dave and Mike Anthony COMBINED...and Sammy ain't even in the fuckin' BAND anymore!

    I tend to doubt either of the Van Halens are too worried about getting Sammy's "blessing" in terms of if they approach(ed) Anthony for a CVH reunion or not.

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  • twonabomber
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    Sirius DJ just said she thinks Sammy is tired of the "dramedy" that is VH, but the way Sammy keeps inserting himself into it, I gotta say she's wrong.

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  • twonabomber
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    I'm reluctant to post this because I don't want it to turn into the Eddie Trunk fanpage lol and because it's Sammy.

    I got to the point where Sam says "Mike has my blessing" and shut it off. Sam is Mike's spokesperson now? Fuck you.

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  • Terry
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    Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
    LOL

    It was only a matter of time for Spammy to chime in on all this.
    I will say I agree with Hagar that Mike Anthony SHOULD be there with the band, because he is a founding member (yeah, yeah, I know, he replaced Mike Stone...whatever). I'd also agree with Hagar that it's an absurd idea to imagine Anthony showing up to play a bass solo, then sing Somebody Get Me A Doctor and then bugger offstage. I mean, fucks sake, the CVH reunion is THE Van Halen reunion people have been waiting to see. Not Van Hagar. Not Van Wolfgang (let's be real, here: if Wolfgang were anybody other than Eddie's kid, he wouldn't even have gotten an audition with the band strictly on the merits of his ability).

    Hagar is correct that for Anthony to show up and play just one tune - which, in the latest rumor scenario, has Anthony singing on it instead of the CVH lineup playing it - I mean, shit...that would go over like a fart in church. That wouldn't even be a CVH reunion. The scary part is I wouldn't put such a scenario past Van Halen these days, because this band has proved very adept over the last 20 + years of making one bad decision after another.

    Either get Anthony ack for a proper arena tour playing a full set with Ed, Al and Dave, or fuck back on off doing what you've been doing with Wolfgang.

    Van Halen have turned into a bunch of stroke job artists who won't even finish the job. Like some half-assed strip club bimbo who entices you to pay the premium dollars to go back with her into the VIP area, then insists on wearing surgical gloves while she jacks you off, but only if you wear a condom and she won't even rub you off to a climax. Lame.

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