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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35441

    Originally posted by Seshmeister

    The best live act I have seen in the last few years(or longer) was the Foo Fighters this summer. Going in I was wondering jeez 3 guitarists and a keyboard player onstage seems a bit much. Then it occurred to me if that's what it takes to do their songs properly live without cheating then great. Would you want to go and see a Beethoven symphony where 7 people mime along to a tape or a 90 piece orchestra play the fucking thing?
    Haha Dave just played a showcase of his new Vegas band with 3 guitarists and I'm not sure I'm ok with that. :D

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    • Jetstream
      Foot Soldier
      • Dec 2011
      • 609

      Those two guitarists combine (or three and all have the generic sound and vibe of session cardboard props) are not even Bart Walsh's equal and Dave's vocals are cringe worthy again... he needs to stop mouthing off about 'album quality' and hope his vocals can slide under the radar without him turning up the scrutiny knob of 'perfection' because I sincerely wish him the best
      Last edited by Jetstream; 09-27-2019, 11:42 PM.
      I got lost in the...

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32880

        Originally posted by Jetstream
        Those two guitarists combine (or three and all have the generic sound and vibe of session cardboard props) are not even Bart Walsh's equal and Dave's vocals are cringe worthy again... he needs to stop mouthing off about 'album quality' and hope his vocals can slide under the radar without him turning up the scrutiny knob of 'perfection' because I sincerely wish him the best
        Thank's to Autotune, anyone can be a singer now.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Jetstream
          Foot Soldier
          • Dec 2011
          • 609

          Originally posted by Nitro Express
          Thank's to Autotune, anyone can be a singer now.
          Then he needs to employ one lol
          I got lost in the...

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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32880

            Originally posted by Jetstream
            Then he needs to employ one lol
            Most definitely. Dave is in dire need for digital enhancement. He's probably popping Viagra which is an Autotune for your dick.
            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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            • Terry
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 12045

              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              That was Ray Daniel’s fuckup. Ray was Gary’s manager so Ray was set to make more money off the album and tour. Ray chased Sammy off and used Dave to generate excitement then he sold a turd called VH3. As Zahzoo said the turd went into production because the recording industry was in turmoil. California glam rock got replaced by grunge and the internet and streaming music was coming onto the scene. Warner’s viewed Van Halen as a dated “has been” and were trying to figure out how to survive in the internet age. This allowed Eddie and Ray to ass blast the public with VH3.
              Yes, but Van Halen had weathered the grunge onslaught. They released two albums during the peak of grunge, both of which went platinum, and were still able to fill large venues when they were touring during the peak of grunge. By 1996, grunge was over. Streaming music for free was still not something the majority of the record buying public had access to in early 1998. Napster didn't even come onto the scene until nearly a year after Van Halen III was released, and the ubiquity of home computers with internet access wasn't quite there yet in terms of it being in in a majority of American homes until the late 1990s.


              Warner Brothers may well have viewed Van Halen as a "has-been" band by the time the dust settled on 1996, but a "has-been" band doesn't sell 2 to 3 million copies of a Greatest Hits album on the strength of just two new tracks with a former lead singer. For me, the shock far as WB was concerned was that they kept Van Halen on the label after the Roth reunion fell through and they actually heard what Van Halen with Gary Cherone had come up with instead in terms of the Van Halen III album.

              Ray Danniels played a strong role in breeding the discontent between Sammy and the Van Halens, and Danniels was instrumental in getting Cherone to replace Hagar/Roth. The origins of that discontent were already there even before Danniels became the manager, though. But all of this took place when Eddie was (supposedly, and certainly appeared to be) sober. Ultimately, Eddie was responsible for canning Hagar, bringing Dave back for the BOV1 tracks, not going beyond those tracks re: touring with Dave and having Cherone be the singer and ultimately the substandard album (unless Daniels had some songwriting credits on it I'm not aware of - and, in fairness, I never checked...nor do I want to) that became Van Halen III.

              The album only ended up selling a half million because, simply put, it wasn't any good.
              Last edited by Terry; 09-28-2019, 09:42 PM.
              Scramby eggs and bacon.

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              • Terry
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jan 2004
                • 12045

                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                Haha Dave just played a showcase of his new Vegas band with 3 guitarists and I'm not sure I'm ok with that. :D
                Why would you even need 3 guitarists onstage to do a setlist that assumedly is comprised 90% or more of CVH tunes?

                Surely after 40 years there are more than a few working rock guitarists who have managed to master Eddie's licks without needing an assist from two other guitarists. Shit, youtube is fucking overrun with anonymous cunts posting "how to play this Van Halen song": get one of those twats to play with Dave.
                Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35441

                  Also in the clip at least one of them is out of tune.

                  Bit of a schoolboy error...?

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32880

                    Just watched Dave’s sneak preview of his Vegas show. I don’t think I could drink enough booze or pop enough Xanax to make him or his band sound good. Watching some guy on the street corner banging on a bunch of plastic buckets is more entertaining.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Vinnie Velvet
                      Full Member Status

                      • Feb 2004
                      • 4622

                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      Just watched Dave’s sneak preview of his Vegas show. I don’t think I could drink enough booze or pop enough Xanax to make him or his band sound good. Watching some guy on the street corner banging on a bunch of plastic buckets is more entertaining.
                      I saw the clips. Dave is as good as he can be at this stage in the game. While this is still a rehearsal, I think he can be a little better. I feel bad for Dave cause he really wants to sing and scream like he could in his youth but what happens when he tries that - the high pitch yelling comes out. I don't think that's intentional - its just that the whistle scream is gone. So maybe Dave has to dial that back in and not try to hit anything high.

                      Its very much like how we all tried to scream like Dave when listening to the CVH records but what came out was a dribbled mess. LOL
                      I think that's what happening with Dave now. Again, I don't think its intentional. I believe hes trying but this is all he's got now.

                      As for the band - well, Dave has always....I mean always had stellar musicianship during his solo days. Whether it was the original EEAS band; John 5 or even guys like Ray Luzier and Brian Young - all great.

                      This band? I don't know. Its not looking good from this rehearsal. I'm sure Dave may know this so hoping he can work out some of the pitfalls before January.
                      Last edited by Vinnie Velvet; 09-30-2019, 12:36 PM.
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                      EAT US AND SMILE

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                      • Vinnie Velvet
                        Full Member Status

                        • Feb 2004
                        • 4622

                        ….And I understand Dave tried to get Brain Young back to play with him for the Vegas shows.

                        Unfortunately, Brian was booked to play elsewhere during that time with some other commitment he couldn't get out of.
                        =V V=
                        ole No.1 The finest
                        EAT US AND SMILE

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                        • twonabomber
                          formerly F A T
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11263

                          Now the Roth Shows have become a promo for the Vegas shows. Plenty of VH talk but nothing on who is in the new band. Dave mentions the Bird and the Bee a couple times too.

                          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                          • Never was
                            Foot Soldier
                            • May 2012
                            • 627

                            That new band was not good so far

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32880

                              Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
                              I saw the clips. Dave is as good as he can be at this stage in the game. While this is still a rehearsal, I think he can be a little better. I feel bad for Dave cause he really wants to sing and scream like he could in his youth but what happens when he tries that - the high pitch yelling comes out. I don't think that's intentional - its just that the whistle scream is gone. So maybe Dave has to dial that back in and not try to hit anything high

                              Its very much like how we all tried to scream like Dave when listening to the CVH records but what came out was a dribbled mess. LOL
                              I think that's what happening with Dave now. Again, I don't think its intentional. I believe hes trying but this is all he's got now.

                              As for the band - well, Dave has always....I mean always had stellar musicianship during his solo days. Whether it was the original EEAS band; John 5 or even guys like Ray Luzier and Brian Young - all great.

                              This band? I don't know. Its not looking good from this rehearsal. I'm sure Dave may know this so hoping he can work out some of the pitfalls before January.
                              Roth wants to give the young trophy wife a good fucking but the junk no longer works. He’s fucking hard with a limp noodle.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • Vinnie Velvet
                                Full Member Status

                                • Feb 2004
                                • 4622

                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                Roth wants to give the young trophy wife a good fucking but the junk no longer works. He’s fucking hard with a limp noodle.
                                LOL

                                Well put.
                                =V V=
                                ole No.1 The finest
                                EAT US AND SMILE

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