Roth fans outnumber Hagar fans

[pete]

Originally posted by Tom Foolery
There is an awesome station here in CO, 103.5 the fox, that i listen to all the time, I cant really remember the last time they played a hagar tune before the reunion was announced, even now its back to Classic VH. I dont think anyone can argue that Van Hagar was/is more radio friendly than Van Halen

Roth Halen Gets more radio play.

Van Hagar is more radio-driendly?

Which is it?

Let me clarify young man.

Van-Hagar wrote radio-friendly hits for the time in which they came out.
That's a bad thing. You date your music that way.

That's why you don't hear it.
That's why you don't hear Winger or Crue or Tiffany.

Van-Halen wrote Van-Halen songs irregardless to trends. That's weren't interested in following and that honesty comes across.

It's real. Heart never goes out of style.

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Tom Foolery
I disagree that Van Hagar was a half-assed version of the band, i think when sammy hagar came in he had no plans of being anything like Van Halen was before, i think its more correct to say its a completely different band, really the only common thread was that eddie could wail on the songs. To say that its a half assed version would mean that they were trying to emulate the previous version, which is clear they were not by the music they put out, completly different band.

As for the tour, i think the reason they went with Sam was because the opportunity presented its self. They knew they could make a few bucks if they would all suck it up and hit the road for a tour. The reports are coming out now that there is trouble within the band, and I think that just shows that this is something that is not the ideal situation. I also dont think that dave would have been the ideal situation either. I think it would be a battle of egos, Dave has a big one, and so does Ed. They mesh together so well when it comes to music, but they just butt-heads when it comes to everything else. I think that it is too much to ask Ed to swallow his pride and tour with dave, so that is why i dont think we will be seeing a dave VH tour anytime soon

You are brilliant.
This is the kind of post I love.
Honest and to the point.
You obviously know music and how the music industry works.

Over and Out,
General Hina

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Cathedral
When Dave stepped out on stage with Ed, Mike and Al at the MTV Awards in '96 the people stood up and applauded.

Yes they did and it was awesome.
Unfortunately what goes on back stage when the cameras are off is what keeps a band together.
The band obviously doesn't want to work with Dave for some reason and we'll never know what that reason is.
We can speculate and point fingers about who to blame BUT the bottom line is those 4 guys don't get along.
They've got too much baggage and they refuse to put it behind them.
VH with Dave is finished.
Hell, VH with Sammy might be over too when this tour is over.
But whatever happens I'm pleased to be a VH fan of all eras.
These guys don't owe us anything.
They've already given us great tunes for the rest of our lives.

Over and Out,
General Hina

[Warham]

We know what happened at the MTV event.

Read 'Reunion Blues' in Dave's book.

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Warham
We know what happened at the MTV event.

Read 'Reunion Blues' in Dave's book.

I've read that piece of crap book.
It's written in Davespeak/soundbites and makes no sense.

Unless you were there you really don't know what happened.

Over and Out,
General Hina

[Tom Foolery]

Originally posted by pete
Roth Halen Gets more radio play.

Van Hagar is more radio-driendly?

Which is it?

Let me clarify young man.

Van-Hagar wrote radio-friendly hits for the time in which they came out.
That's a bad thing. You date your music that way.

That's why you don't hear it.
That's why you don't hear Winger or Crue or Tiffany.

Van-Halen wrote Van-Halen songs irregardless to trends. That's weren't interested in following and that honesty comes across.

It's real. Heart never goes out of style.

Sorry i read that too and it didnt make much sense, i was trying to say that you couldnt really make the argument that Van Hagar was more readio friendly tha Van halen, i was clarifying my earlier post, sorry that was confusing

[Warham]

Originally posted by General Hina
I've read that piece of crap book.
It's written in Davespeak/soundbites and makes no sense.

Unless you were there you really don't know what happened.

Over and Out,
General Hina

The chapter makes perfect sense to me. I'm sorry you didn't graduate kindergarten.

Dave was there. He knew what happened.

Let's see. Who lies more? Ed or Dave? Boy, that's tough.

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Warham
The chapter makes perfect sense to me. I'm sorry you didn't graduate kindergarten.

Dave was there. He knew what happened.

Let's see. Who lies more? Ed or Dave? Boy, that's tough.

Here's the problem with the DLRarmy:
Anyone whos likes all eras of VH and doesn't agree with everything Dave says is a sheep.
When in fact a sheep is reaaly someone who follows their leader blindly without the ai of free thinking.

You warham are the biggest sheep of all.

I don't believe what Dave says and I certainly don't believe the brothers or Hagar either.
I love the music and those immature idiots can shut the fuck up and play.

Over and Out,
General Hina

[Warham]

I believe the person that makes the most sense, as well as having a track record of telling the truth. I have a bullshit-o-meter, and Ed has been off the chart since '96.

In this case, Dave's story makes the most sense, and has been validated by others.

I've been able to discern when Van Halen and Roth have gone below standards. I tell it like it is, not like a sheep who blindly follows Van Hagar to their pasture.

[Tom Foolery]

Originally posted by pete


It's real. Heart never goes out of style.

uh, Heart went out of style a long time ago, right after barracudda and crazy in love went off the radio

[Tom Foolery]

Originally posted by Warham
I believe the person that makes the most sense, as well as having a track record of telling the truth.

dude, if we are going by the person who makes the most sense, then Dave is for sure out. By those standards you are going to have to go with Sam, or Mike because they are the only ones left who can think staright in the band

i know you are refering to the 96 incident, but still, DLR has had his own fair share of incohhernet thoughts. Hell, if he forgets the lyrics to songs, maybe he just plum forgot what happened backstage

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Warham


In this case, Dave's story makes the most sense, and has been validated by others.

I've been able to discern when Van Halen and Roth have gone below standards. I tell it like it is, not like a sheep who blindly follows Van Hagar to their pasture.

Who validated Dave's stories? Mezro.

I like VH with Sammy and without.
I've stated before that VHIII has 2 of the best VH tracks of all time: "Without You" & "One I Want"
I've been a Sammy fan from way back so I don't feel I'm following them to pasture.
Does Sammy dress like an idiot? YES
Does Dave look like a fool when he wirls his baton? YES
Should Sammy sing Dave era songs? NO
Should Dave perform at least a few of his own solo songs in concert? YES

Over and Out,
General Hina

[Warham]

Hagar a truth teller?

May I present Exhibit A...

"...It's a fact, number one. The Van Halen part of it is the thing I'll never escape from. Other than both being singers in the same band, we have nothing in common. Other than both having a successful reign. We sold 42 million records, they sold 28 [with Roth] (no, Sam, you sold 18 million, Roth has sold 37 million). I was in the band 11 years, he was 7 (no, Sam, he was in the band 11 years). So stack it up. "Right Now" and all the No. 1 records were with me. They became a teenage phenomenon with him. But people grew up. It was more like 18-30 for me. Their wife and couples came to see us. The fact that I had a career before Van Halen was more important to me. David Lee Roth didn't have a career before and so he didn't have one after. (really Sam? He had three platinum albums! Same as you! Does that mean you don't have a career either?)"

[Warham]

Originally posted by General Hina
Who validated Dave's stories? Mezro.

I like VH with Sammy and without.
I've stated before that VHIII has 2 of the best VH tracks of all time: "Without You" & "One I Want"
I've been a Sammy fan from way back so I don't feel I'm following them to pasture.
Does Sammy dress like an idiot? YES
Does Dave look like a fool when he wirls his baton? YES
Should Sammy sing Dave era songs? NO
Should Dave perform at least a few of his own solo songs in concert? YES

Over and Out,
General Hina

Without You and One I Want both blow. They aren't even up to Hagar's best standards.

Sammy does look like an idiot.

Dave looks ok when he whirls the baton.

Sammy should never sing DLR's songs, that we agree on.

Dave performs solo songs in concert. Check out Japan '04...

Yankee Rose, Goin' Crazy, Just Like Paradise...

I don't include Just A Gigolo, California Girls, or Shoobop, because he didn't write the material, but he did do those in concert.

[General Hina]

Originally posted by Warham
Without You and One I Want both blow. They aren't even up to Hagar's best standards.

Sammy does look like an idiot.

Dave looks ok when he whirls the baton.

Sammy should never sing DLR's songs, that we agree on.

Dave performs solo songs in concert. Check out Japan '04...

Yankee Rose, Goin' Crazy, Just Like Paradise...

I don't include Just A Gigolo, California Girls, or Shoobop, because he didn't write the material, but he did do those in concert.

Cool.

Over and Out,
General Hina