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VHND did run an article about the first video.
back to the podcast...
Sure, Dave has made some exaggerated claims. DLR Band probably wasn't recorded in ten days, etc. The difference between Dave's "lies," and Hagar's, is that Hagar is trying to build up his legacy, his influence, his importance to the world.
I never understand the "I'm embarrassed for (whoever)" comments. Dave is in a position to do exactly what he wants. We don't have to like it.Last edited by twonabomber; 01-19-2024, 10:13 PM.Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.Comment
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Most of the press I've seen have been concentrating on the Hagar stuff. The fans at places like vhnd and vhlinks are much more worried about Dave saying that Ed, Al and Val maybe not fucking perfect people.
It's funny to people like me and most of you because we've all known for many years everyone involved in this band is shades of grey just some are darker than others...
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Well, doubtless from Dave's perspective the Eddie he knew and his dealings with Eddie were different from the public facade or whatnot.I was kind of surprised at just how negative they were mainly about the comments about Ed not those about Hagar. My guess is that it's partly because it does seem like a burning of remaining bridges by Dave with the VH camp. He's gone from saying that he and Alex talk on the phone weekly to almost accusing him of bullying his younger brother to the severe detriment of his health.
I think if you view it from Dave's point of view it must be difficult to hear Ed being raised to absolute sainthood status often by people who he had a lot of problems with and who didn't always treat him well when he was alive.
On the Hagar anal probe joke I'm pretty sure me and quite a few others have being doing variations on that in this forum for over 20 years now but good to hear Dave's take on it.
I recall an interview with Dave from some point during the years of 2002-2005, where he was naturally asked about Van Halen and the status of a reunion and how Eddie's then-health could hypothetically factor into a reunion. Dave said something along the lines of Eddie having partied his way through his 'illnesses' so the health issue was somewhat bogus in terms of it being an impediment.
As to if Ed was cajoled into working when it was risky to his health, from how it appeared those last few tours gave Ed a sense of purpose. Least that's how it looked to me. I mean, what the fuck do I know from how Ed's health was, really? Re: those last three tours, Ed looked the roughest on the ADKOT tour, yet he was knocking the tunes out of the park night after night.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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You may have misunderstood what I was trying to say, I didn't mean anything since the reunion. Dave was kind of implying that at least part of the reason Ed drank himself to death was Alex.Comment
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It's always somewhat surprising to me when fans of whatever celeb get taken aback when it is pointed out that famous people go to the bathroom, sleep and whatever else just like the rest of us non-famous schmucks.Most of the press I've seen have been concentrating on the Hagar stuff. The fans at places like vhnd and vhlinks are much more worried about Dave saying that Ed, Al and Val maybe not fucking perfect people.
It's funny to people like me and most of you because we've all known for many years everyone involved in this band is shades of grey just some are darker than others...
I can remember when in the years immediately following Elvis's death all the tales of his last years were finding their way into the public discourse, and one of my aunts had been such a massive fan of his and just wouldn't believe any of it. Or when Albert Goldman followed up his Elvis book with his John Lennon book in the late 1980s and everybody was losing their minds over the notion that John Lennon had a nasty, self-absorbed, callous side to his personality. It's like, grow the fuck up.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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Yeah, I may have misunderstood.
Bigger picture, who knows the ultimate reasons why Ed did what he did? Frankly, I'm surprised Ed lived as long as he did. Which isn't to imply that I felt he deserved to die when he did or anything like that, BUT...you know, you got your body, you gotta take care of it. If you don't, well, your health choices can dictate the way you finish. Simple enough to say, but there it is.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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Yeah and it's a lottery and you only get one time in the game so you want to also have some fun.
The fittest of my friends died at 40 of a random nightmare cancer.
It's a percentage game. It's kind of shitty the way that we all start asking questions when someone dies how is close to our age. Did he smoke? Did he do drugs? Was she fat? It's all about finding a reason it won't happen to you.Comment
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Oh I think it’s safe to say the Van Halen’s grew up in a dysfunctional household. Both Dave and Noel Monk have stated that Ed and Al would beat the shit out of each other and go nuts on a regular basis. Al to his credit quit drinking but Ed never could do it. The guys were rock musicians. Being nuts goes with the territory.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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I think Dave is just having fun. Him and the Van Halen’s were never great friends. It was a working relationship. I think Dave is setting some records straight. His jab at Sammy was great. Ed was a drug using rock guitarist who lived for guitar and fast cars. He lived the lifestyle.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Valerie was probably naive thinking she could change Ed. She wasn’t squeaky clean either. She admitted she cheated on Ed early into their marriage. Sounds like the typical celebrity fuckaroo.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Yeah, a lot of folks are upset about sharing the imperfections of Ed and Val's life... it was a fucking train wreck though, for significant periods of time in the late 90's up thru around 2008. Plus it wasn't all lived out in private... I don't buy into the whole honor the dead by ignoring their dark sides crap...Most of the press I've seen have been concentrating on the Hagar stuff. The fans at places like vhnd and vhlinks are much more worried about Dave saying that Ed, Al and Val maybe not fucking perfect people.
It's funny to people like me and most of you because we've all known for many years everyone involved in this band is shades of grey just some are darker than others...
The most interesting aspect of Dave's last 2 Roth Shows seems to indicate Dave was in touch, informed, and far more connected to the on-going antics of Edward during periods of time when Dave wasn't publicly associated with the band end of the spectrum."If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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Ed was a product of his environment. His dad made his sons his drinking buddies. Ed and Al probably were alcoholics before they graduated from high school. If you read Tone Chaser Ed’s mom wasn’t very supportive and always critical of him. The guy was a loner who got beat up by his older brother. Brothers will fight but not to the point of breaking up furniture and car windows. Anyone who witnessed a Van Halen fight said it was completely nuts.
Dave does not have a history of lying. He might be a strange duck but he’s not a liar and before the internet he laid low unless there was something to promote. He’s right. He never slagged Van Halen until they started slagging him.
I think Dave just wants a dose of reality shot into the public eye. Ed Van Halen was not this sweet guy you people are making him out to be. He was a self-centered rock musician that only cared about guitar and driving fast cars. He parked his dick where ever it found itself and his second wife worked in the porn industry and to her credit, she shaped up the wreck Eddie had become.Last edited by Nitro Express; 01-20-2024, 11:48 AM.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Dave cracked me up when he said, Ed was ruined and he did what he had to do. He called me. Ha! Ha!
Look at some of Val’s Instagram posts. You wonder who was more nuts. Ed or her. No wonder Wolf weighs 400 pounds. That kid grew up in a nut house. Food indeed is a coping drug.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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He got his addictive personality from his dad, his love of food from his mum and his song writing ability from the nanny.Comment
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