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  • knowitall
    Roadie
    • Aug 2004
    • 128

    Who are the "sheep", anyway??

    That's right, who are they?? (BTW, sorry about yesterday, ladies, I do have to work sometimes) "Sheep" are defined as people who blindly follow, without questioning anything they're told. Like the Roth fans here....kind of a misnomer, The Sheep Pen, but since Rikk and Limpbergh named it, it's not surprising that they really didn't get that the joke was on them. So I can't accept the honor of Sheep of the Week, or Year, because you define your version of a sheep as being a Hagar fan, and that ain't me. (Talk about not reading posts....) Once again, I was a Roth era VH fan, until the breakup. I choose not to partake in whatever version of VH they produce now, and that would include an embarrassing reunion with crazy ass David Lee. So please, and this would be awesome, make up a whole new thing, just for me, and I'll think about it?? May take a while huh.....Incidentally, I was reading some Roth interviews lately, and where there used to be humor, there's an undercurrent of serious negativity. Poor guy....like you guys, his whole existence is wrapped up in Roth-era Vh too!!!! Here's more stuff from Ed you may enjoy--please note how nicely he speaks of Dave, unlike the other way around, and note they WERE willing to try........

    "Eruptions"
    By: Steven Rosen

    Guitar World (December 1996)

    By now, only the brain dead are unaware of the changes that have rocked the Van Halen camp. Singer Sammy Hagar is gone, his solid gold locks nothing but a memory. David Lee Roth, absent over a decade, returned to appear on a pair of new tracks available on the band's Best of Volume I greatest hits package, the band's first such compilation ever. But despite feverish speculation that the flamboyant singer would rejoin Van Halen, fate and, in all likelyhood, Eddie deemed otherwise: Roth is out, history for a second time. Of course, Van Halen had a powerfully felt reason to reject a reunion that would, if nothing else, have been a diamond-studded cash cow for the group.

    "We're from different planets; we don't communicate," says Eddie of Roth. "We just don't see things the same way. I'm not saying that he's a bad person at all--I actually fuckin' love the guy. But I don't need that kind of negative energy around me. I don't know how to explain it, but Dave kinda sucks the life out of me." So instead of David Lee Roth making a dramatic re-entry into the Van Halen fray, a dark horse candidate emerged and was handed one of rock's plum jobs outright--none other than former Extreme frontman, Gary Cherone.

    "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love"
    By: Chuck Crisafulli

    Los Angeles Times (October 20, 1996)

    "Utter lunacy."

    With a shake of his tousled locks and a flash of his trademark party-boy grin, guitarist Eddie Van Halen summarizes the recent events that have shaken the world of his band--platinum-selling monsters of good-time rock Van Halen.

    In the last few tumultuous months, the band has parted ways with Sammy Hagar, its lead singer for the last 11 years. And it reconciled with its original frontman, David Lee Roth, long enough to record a pair of new songs to be included on the "Van Halen Best Of, Volume 1" album being released this week.

    But almost as soon as the reunited foursome made its first public appearance as presenters at the MTV Video Music Awards in September, the band and Roth split again as bitterly as they had back in 1985.

    Roth's second breakup with the band--Eddie, his drummer brother Alex and bassist Michael Anthony--was followed by a battle of press releases. The singer believed that he had returned to Van Halen as Hagar's permanent replacement and accused Eddie of crass deception. The band claimed that Roth had never been told whether his future with the band would extend beyond the two new songs.

    Despite the turmoil, Eddie is in good spirits at his expansive home studio in the hills of the San Fernando Valley, called 5150 after the lunatic-on-the-loose police code that titled one of the band's albums.

    After a late breakfast with his wife, actress Valerie Bertinelli, and their 5-year-old son, Wolfgang, the guitarist settles into the clutter behind the studio console, begins puffing on the first of a long chain of cigarettes and displays the affable, unassuming manner of the quintessential Southern California dude.

    In conversation, the 39-year-old Dutch-born, Pasadena-raised musician--generally recognized as a major innovator in the art of rock guitar--is open, friendly and almost shockingly free of rock star affectation.

    Before a question can be posed, Eddie's nearly ever-present smile fades, and he insists on setting the record straight in regard to his dealings with Hagar and Roth.

    "I've just been feeling sick about all this," he says. "I thought we were taking the high road by not commenting on anything, but it got crazy.

    "First of all, Sammy quit. I had a final conversation with him where I asked him to be more of a team player. I'm the kind of guy who'll do anything for the music--play with my toes, stand on my head--and I wanted to hear that kind of commitment from him.

    "We talked, and he said, 'I want to be a solo artist again.' I thanked him for being honest. We said we'd stay in touch--it felt like we would continue to be friends. Then he went around telling everyone he'd been ousted. I'm saying that if he had wanted to be in this band, he'd still be here.

    "As for Dave, he called me up to talk about the 'greatest hits'--how it was going to be packaged and so on. We apologized to each other for childish behavior in the past, and we got together and actually had some fun doing the two new songs.

    "But there was never any talk of anything permanent. Anybody who expected us to tour with Dave for an oldies-but-goodies thing--forget it. To me, that would just be taking people's money. I think Dave was putting the cart before the horse, and the horse didn't even exist."

    Van Halen sighs and picks up a guitar to strum while he talks.

    "Alex and I have been joking that both of these guys suffer from LSD--lead singer disease. But truthfully, it doesn't feel good to say bad things about Sammy or Dave. They're both talented, we made a lot of good music together, and we had a lot of fun together. I still respect them both, but it's going to be hard to ever be friends again.

    "The worst part is that I just don't want any fans to think that we were misleading them. I tried to be straight with everybody. And I do apologize to the fans for all this, but I'd just ask that they let the music speak for itself."


    Meanwhile at ROTHARMY HQ........
  • knowitall
    Roadie
    • Aug 2004
    • 128

    #2
    Oh yeah, and Rikk, way to mention that molested children are somehow members of an exclusive club in your post the other day---you are a total fucking tool, my man.

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    • Big Train
      Full Member Status

      • Apr 2004
      • 4013

      #3
      All I can say is, if you have to ask........You are. If there is a roomful of us and you don't know who the sheep is, it's probably you.

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      • Rikk
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jan 2004
        • 16518

        #4
        Re: Who are the "sheep", anyway??

        Originally posted by knowitall
        That's right, who are they?? (BTW, sorry about yesterday, ladies, I do have to work sometimes) "Sheep" are defined as people who blindly follow, without questioning anything they're told. Like the Roth fans here....kind of a misnomer, The Sheep Pen, but since Rikk and Limpbergh named it, it's not surprising that they really didn't get that the joke was on them. So I can't accept the honor of Sheep of the Week, or Year, because you define your version of a sheep as being a Hagar fan, and that ain't me. (Talk about not reading posts....)
        Aw, you gonna cry?

        You are a SHEEP. You act as if you're the sore thumb sticking out and annoying everybody. But the truth is, mate, that the joke is on you. Bill, Guwapo, Max and myself have received a ton of congrats for our work in slowly damaging the sheep population. It's all, of course, in good fun. You seem to think your presence here is also fun and witty. But, you are a classic sheep...your whole life seems to depend on receiving attention from everyone here. Well, you will be SHEEP OF THE WEEK for a day and a half. But I myself am going to stop paying attention to you because you finally bored us. Nobody hardly noticed that you were gone yesterday, but I presume you had to cut lawns or something in order to buy dinner last night until today (Welfare Check Wednesday).

        Anyway, get back in the fucking pen. But come Friday, you'll be evicted from your SHEEP OF THE WEEK quarters. And frankly, nobody even cares about you now anyway. You've bored us all. Your posts say the same thing.

        We get it. You don't like the Diamond Dave of today. Or Van Halen. Good. Good for you. I get the point. Should I do a one-handed clap for you now? What else have you to tell us. You won't change people's minds. And you have no new material. So, you ol' stand up short on material, go pull a Lenny Bruce and leave this mortal plain.
        Roth Army Militia

        Originally posted by WARF
        Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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        • Rikk
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jan 2004
          • 16518

          #5
          Originally posted by knowitall
          Oh yeah, and Rikk, way to mention that molested children are somehow members of an exclusive club in your post the other day---you are a total fucking tool, my man.
          Excuse me? Are you this psycho? Find the post and paste it in here. I don't remember using quite those exact words. So prove yourself, idiot. And then go away.

          Man, you really must have no life. Fucking loser.
          Roth Army Militia

          Originally posted by WARF
          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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          • knowitall
            Roadie
            • Aug 2004
            • 128

            #6
            Nice one Rikk..... you must have been PM'ing the moderators like hell to get that shit removed, huh?? Don't worry, I'm sure I can rattle you enough today that you'll fire off some other really cool stuff like that, you're a bitch, through and through. Oh, and 40 yrs old, unemployed, and living with your Mom. That I remember from the other day as well. And somthing about an incestual relationship with your homosexual cousin. Who is probably Lumbergh.

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            • Roth kills Sam
              Foot Soldier
              • Mar 2004
              • 691

              #7
              Wow! Thanks Blow-it-all! Thanks for posting the same interviews all of us have seen mnay times before your recent visits. We all appreciate your attempts at education us with all of this meaningful data. Do you have anymore Jim Dandy interviews? Maybe you can help us with that, too. You are doing a fantastic job and we are all better people here because of you...

              Oh yeah: You're a fag, cause Erik Estrada says so

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              • knowitall
                Roadie
                • Aug 2004
                • 128

                #8
                Hey, Rotheatssam!!! WOOO!!! Yeah!!!! VH are fags!!!! Estada's a sheep!!! And a fag!!!!

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                • Roth kills Sam
                  Foot Soldier
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 691

                  #9
                  Originally posted by knowitall
                  Hey, Rotheatssam!!! WOOO!!! Yeah!!!! VH are fags!!!! Estada's a sheep!!! And a fag!!!!
                  You are finally getting it! Congratulations... welcome to earth...

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                  • knowitall
                    Roadie
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 128

                    #10
                    LMAO.....

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                    • Rikk
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 16518

                      #11
                      Originally posted by knowitall
                      Nice one Rikk..... you must have been PM'ing the moderators like hell to get that shit removed, huh?? Don't worry, I'm sure I can rattle you enough today that you'll fire off some other really cool stuff like that, you're a bitch, through and through. Oh, and 40 yrs old, unemployed, and living with your Mom. That I remember from the other day as well. And somthing about an incestual relationship with your homosexual cousin. Who is probably Lumbergh.
                      Oh my god...you call me out on a quote I never made. Then when I ask you to paste it in here, you claim it's a conspiracy I had with the mods to remove it.

                      Problem is...there was no such quote or anything close to it!

                      You know what? You win. I'm gonna leave you alone. You are not getting my full-attention anymore. And you know why? Because I truly feel sorry for you. I'm serious. I think you need serious psychological help. You lie more than Pinocchio and go off on these fits of paranoia and hatred.

                      BTW, I'm 29, employed, going to school and living on my own. You?

                      Seriously, BLOW-IT-ALL, your shite never really worked. But it's more tired than a whore on Sunday morning now. You made your point. Nobody cares. You said you were going to have a "24 hour tour"...maybe "two days tops". Well? Or do you need to admit that your life is empty without all this attention?
                      Roth Army Militia

                      Originally posted by WARF
                      Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                      • knowitall
                        Roadie
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 128

                        #12
                        Is that a quote?? Prove it, since as you see by my avatar, I made 4 posts, only one of which appears.....so no, it's not a conspiracy, just a whiny bitch named Rikk, who succumbed to the heat in the kitchen rather than getting the fuck out. Dumbass. Said it before and I'll say it again, Roth used to be about humor. Now, only if it's directed at someone else. Take a joke? Not Dave. Fuck him and Fuck you, bitch. Now that you're leaving me alone, I guess I get the last word......

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                        • knowitall
                          Roadie
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 128

                          #13
                          OOPS!! 6000 posts, 4 threads is what I meant. Sorry, bitch.

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                          • Roth kills Sam
                            Foot Soldier
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 691

                            #14
                            Originally posted by knowitall
                            Is that a quote?? Prove it, since as you see by my avatar, I made 4 posts, only one of which appears.....so no, it's not a conspiracy, just a whiny bitch named Rikk, who succumbed to the heat in the kitchen rather than getting the fuck out. Dumbass. Said it before and I'll say it again, Roth used to be about humor. Now, only if it's directed at someone else. Take a joke? Not Dave. Fuck him and Fuck you, bitch. Now that you're leaving me alone, I guess I get the last word......
                            Then Bill Cosby walks into the room and says "Hava a coke and a smile" to everyone

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                            • knowitall
                              Roadie
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 128

                              #15
                              Or as Eddie Murphy quoting Richard Pryor says-- "Tell BIll I said have a Coke and a smile and shut the fuck up!"

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