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Originally posted by Cathedral I have to say that this review made me take a step back. before it was funny to laugh at Ed doing so baddy, but the way he is being described in damn near all of these reviews is really blowing me away, and not in a good way.
All Spammy Attacks aside, doesn't it seem very strange to all of you that Ed is actually playing so badly? The man we have all watched for all these years just rip it up while being shit faced stoned and drunk?
I've seen him a bunch and he could barely walk, but he still tore the shit out of the guitar.
He's hiding something and i have to agree that it tends to make me wonder if his health is really what he says it is.
I mean, in some shots where MA or Spam is looking at him, it's as if they know he's fucking up but not saying anything and giving him this "It's Cool, Dude...Just try and keep it flowing" vibe.
I dunno, I just don't like what i'm reading and if the truth be known here, it sounds as though he was fresh out of a chemo treatment by the description of how his energy just dropped off during the show.
Fuck Spam in the ass, but something is just not adding up enough to explain Ed's performances this time around. It's not just being intoxicated that is the problem here.
I agree that Eddie's onstage performances can't be just down to the booze. Perhaps it's a severe case of depression allied with alcohol and drug abuse. Eddie's dysfunctional behaviour reminds me of a friend who suffered with depression for years.
Originally posted by guwapo_rocker Yep, I posted months ago that it may be Ed's last tour due
illness. I hope to god I am wrong.
I still think he is messed up on booze and pills, and I hope
that is the reason for his performance because that can be
helped while a terminal illness cannot.
Yes, all bashing aside, I hope it is Ed over indulging and
not cancer. I have loved him since '78, and would not
wish him physical harm.
Hopefully he just needs to grow up, be a man, face his addictions,
and maybe, eventually, save his family, and his band.
You would think that one of these "solo's" with his son would slap some sense into his dome and get him thinking straight that he needs to straighten out his life if he's going to leave any kind of legacy to the kid other than a couple empty heineken cans. Sad, really. What do you want, Ed??? To actually pass the torch to Wolfie someday, or have him find you cold and stiff in a motel room on tour face down in your own vomit??? The choice is yours.....
Ed is drinking, yet his body looks ripped. Cortisone ? (Steroids)...
I think he would be popping uppers for the shows ..
I think its just a combination of booze and pills and his age..
I know people older than Ed who have had more agressive cancer
and survived the chemo. They are not energy-less stumbling
incoherent people. In fact the people I know are very healthy now.
Its not the cancer... He is just off his face....
Either way, this will probably be his last tour, as the old trusty
chemical combinations are not doing it for him anymore..
He needs to get off the wine, and onto some stabilising meds...
then some uppers will probably do the job !
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Originally posted by guwapo_rocker Eddie Van Halen's off night mars band's comeback
By Tony Hicks
CONTRA COSTA TIMES
Chew on this for a second, arena rock fans: Michael Anthony, charged-up rock centerpiece.
Even if Van Halen -- the inventors of arena rock methodology -- lost its aura of invincibility in the post-David Lee Roth years of the late '80s and '90s, the band convinced fans it still mattered. It was called bold attitude and inspired musicianship, despite waning material.
So despite uncharacteristic late-show missteps Tuesday night at HP Pavilion in San Jose, the crowd naturally gushed love and respect for guitar legend Eddie Van Halen, getting him emotional during his guitar solo.
But despite the lovefest and despite the buzz surrounding singer Sammy Hagar's first jaunt with the band in nearly a decade, something went wrong Tuesday night: Eddie Van Halen just wasn't right during the show's second half.
Instead of the patterned and characteristically innovative shredding and noise-making marking his solos for 25 years, Tuesday's performance was mostly a jumbled mess. Van Halen seemed to be missing cues during songs. He stood in place with his head down much of the night, looking tired.
Yeah, we should all look so tired with a full head of hair going shirtless at 49, after hip-replacement surgery and winning a bout with cancer. Nevertheless, Hagar and bassist Michael Anthony seemed determined to take up the on-stage slack and -- this is no knock against Anthony -- but when Van Halen's bassist is the on-stage spitfire of the group, something's not right.
Eddie Van Halen was his old bouncy self during opening song "Jump," one of a handful of Roth songs the band is playing this time around. Eschewing on-stage keyboards for prerecorded music, Eddie Van Halen seemed determined to be the effortless guitar God, especially early during "Run Around," and a thick "Humans Being." Hagar poured beer into upraised glasses from the crowd; all seemed right in the VH world..
Things wound down for Eddie once they returned from Anthony's old, thunderous bass solo, (during which, as always, he spent as much time drinking Jack Daniel's as he did laying). Anthony cleared his throat enough to scream through a superb concert-rarity from the Roth days, "Somebody Get Me a Doctor." After running the drill over the strings for "Poundcake," Van Halen started slowing down during a new song, "It's About Time." After a tight version of "Fair Warning" gem "Unchained," Van Halen spent most of "Why Can't This Be Love," back leaning against the drum riser.
The ultra-hyper Hagar had no such trouble. At 56, he sounds and behaves as if it's still 1977, with Anthony acting as his partner in mischief. After the inexplicable-set filler, the bland "Seventh Seal," and a so-so "Best of Both Worlds," came the part Van Halen fans always crave -- Eddie's solo. Only instead of the typical blues licks, wildly percussive fret tapping, and lightning-fast picking, a disjointed Eddie Van Halen mucked his way through sloppy noise and inexplicably long pauses. Occasionally he'd slide into some "Cathedral" volume-knob tampering or "Mean Street" pounding, but it was mostly 10 minutes of directionless time-filling.
It was puzzling. Eddie Van Halen re-invented rock guitar, and boredom has never even hinted at creeping into his solo repertoire. Most guitar players couldn't play a solo half as good as Van Halen's ugliest noise on his worst night, but anyone who knows better had to be disappointed. He looked tired and, during one interlude when the crowd went nuts, essentially thanking him for being Eddie Van Halen, he looked moved to the point of tears. Only then did he snap into the song "Eruption," for a minute or so.
From here, with Eddie in a funk, the sheer strength of weight of great material carried the band through. "Dreams" morphed into "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love," during which Hagar (again) let someone in the crowd sing the Roth break-down. A big-screen show ensued for "Right Now," with the old video accompanied by new text, including "Right Now Van Halen is Kicking (Tail) in San Jose." Well, sort of. Encores "You Really Got Me," and "Panama," had enough drive, even if a mostly-immobile Eddie was a bit off on some cues. Show-ender "When It's Love," was anti-climactic by then.
After 30 years as a band, Van Halen can still defy age by playing the party gods to which we once worshipped. But Tuesday, its most important member was missing his groove, whether it was his hip, fatigue, or whatever, and, sadly, it showed. Hopefully it was only a blip on the bigger picture.
Good read. That's very peculiar about Eddie.
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Man, as much as I hate to promote the Sham Hagar reunion, if it's really the last time to ever see EVH on stage, I'm thinking of maybe buying some tix to tomorrow nights show in Oakland...
*SLAP* *Wake myself up*
...what was I thinking??!?!???
It ain't Van Halen without DAVID LEE ROTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Knowing and believing are two very different things.
It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.
Here's MY opinion after seeing him two nights in a row...
This is strictly about Eddie...
He wasn't DRUNK but he is in a world of his own
He had little to no interaction with Mike or Sammy
He was praising Alex like a GOD
He would have bursts of energy and then periods of rest... My take on that is that he'd give his all and then rest when he needed to... He ISs pushing 50. Also he was more remote because he was playing with a cord.
I get the feeling he was haggard, worn out. Perhaps the tour itself is too much for him after all he's been through.
His playing was SLOPPY at times, more so Fri than Sat... Let's keep in mind they haven't played together in 6 years and this tour was kind of thrown together... I'll cut him some slack... He's EVH!
He was looking down alot. I took it to be a humble thing. To me he seemed almost shocked that the crowd still loved him soooo much!
He even said "Thanks for putting up with that shit" like he knew it wasn't his best and he was knew the crowd was just happy to have him back out there doing what he does, even if it wasn't his best! FUCK YEAH!
Truth is, It wasn't the same EVH we are all familar with... Is it age? Drugs? Booze? Both? Depression? Is he Crazzy? Dying? Who knows...
Here's a final word for eddie... A tough lesson in life that people need to learn is that not everybody wishes you well... But I do Ed... Keep up the good work! YOU KICK ASS!
Originally posted by Keeyth Man, as much as I hate to promote the Sham Hagar reunion, if it's really the last time to ever see EVH on stage, I'm thinking of maybe buying some tix to tomorrow nights show in Oakland...
*SLAP* *Wake myself up*
...what was I thinking??!?!???
It ain't Van Halen without DAVID LEE ROTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
Truth is, It wasn't the same EVH we are all familar with... Is it age? Drugs? Booze? Both? Depression? Is he Crazzy? Dying? Who knows...
Here's a final word for eddie... A tough lesson in life that people need to learn is that not everybody wishes you well... But I do Ed... Keep up the good work! YOU KICK ASS!
Well here's a final word for Eddie and you sweetheart, just to set the record straight... ...I DO wish Eddie well. In fact, I wish him the physical and even moreso, the MENTAL wellness required for him to understand that WE WANT THE ORIGINAL VAN HALEN BACK!
Hey Eddie, you aint' gettin any younger and neither are we!
It's time however, that all that AGE has given you the MATURITY to see that it's time to put ego aside, and do what is right by both the fans and for the world of music in general: REUNITE WITH DAVID LEE ROTH.
Give the fans what we (and you KNOW deep down inside what YOU too Eddie) WANT!!!
A reunion of the greatest rock and roll act to ever hit the stage!
THE REAL VAN HALEN!!!!!!!
Knowing and believing are two very different things.
It is the difference between the knowledge we accrue... ...and the knowledge we apply.
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