The stuff Ed doesn't want you to see

[5150Clown]

Someone asked Dave about all that material that has never been released and this is what he had to say (entire interview found at VHND.COM)

CR: In 2000 Van Halen's record company reissued the six Van Halen albums you sang on. Conspicuously, there were no bonus tracks or outtakes added. Are there any unreleased tracks in the vaults?

DLR: You haven't heard or seen anything but one-half of an ill-conceived greatest hits. In the 18 years or so since I left the band, there should've been box sets, videos...all kinds of stuff! Just that radio interviews alone are up there with "Absolutely Fabulous"! Believe me, there is a tremendous wealth of unreleased Van Halen material. But the Van Halens have lost their way. Eddie is...how should I put this...I think the Van Halens forgot why they originally wanted to do this. At this point, to have all that missing stuff released is almost a responsibility. But the fellas got caught up with a couple of managers in the last few years who have had other agendas. One of them was attempting to foist Sam Hagar upon us. So their agenda is not at all what Van Halen's audience-or myself-has. It all reminds me of that scene at the end of the movie "Chicago": one girl turns to the other and says, "So let's continue". The other says, "But I hate you." The first replies, "So what? This is showbiz!"

[light 'em up!]

Awesome! And so true! Damn shame.

[Warham]

But you see, Al just can't get over the fact that Dave is a better man than he is, otherwise there might be a reunion.

[Terry]

Actually had some respect for Ed in 1996 when he claimed he didn't want to be looking backward, and claimed that was the reason he didn't want to do a greatest hits tour with Roth that year.

He went out, got Cherone, commenced about recording an album of new material.

Granted, the brothers ran a number on Sam as well as Dave that year, and the way they went about dealing with Roth kinda pissed me off, as did the decision not to do a new, full-length album with Roth.

But it took balls to not do the cash cow grab with Roth and try it with a new singer. The results notwithstanding, the principle smacked of belligerence, which classic VH had in spades.

Then on the Van Halen 3 tour we get a live set 50% of which is classic tunes. Now we get another greatest hits album and a tour with Hagar.

If the Van Halens want to look backward, they might as well open the floodgates and get all that old classic unreleased audio and video out there. To claim, as Alex does, that it doesn't exist, or that they're not doing it because they want to move the music forward.........well, that shit doesn't wash with what Van Hagar is doing this year.

[lms2]

1996 was a long time ago, and as you get older you become more retrospective. One of Ed's problems is believing in himself-if it wasn't good enough the first time around-what makes it good enough now? the other problem is that he cant release it cause he doesnt remember how to play it. What if someone actually wanted to hear it live?

[Matt White]

EVH and Shemp Van HAlen are a couple of BONE SMUGGLERS!!!! FUCK THEM!!!!!

[cwsmith17]

Roth is a true entertainer!

[Panamark]

Good to have Dave's confirmation that this stuff exists !
Im positive we will all see it one day

[twonabomber]

after Ed dies, Wolfie will find all this stuff and release it.

[Matt White]

Originally posted by Panamark
Good to have Dave's confirmation that this stuff exists !
Im positive we will all see it one day

I agree. I remember years ago when finding a VAN HALEN bootleg was about impossible. LIke trying to find a cheese burger within a 50 mile radius of Spammy Hagar!?!
Eventually this stuff will find its way out of the Van Halen SISTER's grubby little hands and the public will get a look at THE MIGHTY VAN HALEN in peak form. ONE day............................................... ................................................

[5150Clown]

Hopefully we'll see this one day. But the sisters have so much hatred that we may never see it. As long as Spam is in the band, we'll probably never see it.


The sisters: Sammy, join us. Join the dark side!
Sam - but the waboritas?
Sisters: Sammy, we are your fathers
Sam - NNNNNNnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooooo

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by Terry
But it took balls to not do the cash cow grab with Roth and try it with a new singer. The results notwithstanding, the principle smacked of belligerence, which classic VH had in spades.

this had nothing to do with balls...it was pure arrogance of the sisters to believe that the name "van halen" would guarantee success...

I remember the bass player saying that "me, ed and alex are the core of the band...we can make any singer sound great"...fuck them anyway...

[bueno bob]

I took this from BWBK...apparently, Alex believes that all of the Van Halen songs ever written have been released already, save one or two that are only hooks or otherwise completely unfinished...read on....




VAN HALEN Have Released Almost Every Song They Have Completed [Rock Hard - 04.08.10 09:13:40]

Undercover News Australia (www.undercover.com.au) has issued the following VAN HALEN report:



No Fat In Van Halen



There's no fat in the Van Halen coffers according to the band's Alex Van Halen and Sammy Hagar. Almost every song they have ever finished recording since their first album in 1978 has been released.



"There are no real tracks that are unreleased. There may be two or three songs that were partially completed" Alex tells Undercover News. "If those songs were really worthwhile we would have released them back when they were written".



"One of the biggest mistakes artists can make is to go back on the stuff they passed on in the first place and throw it out as new, which it isn't" he adds. "Ed is very particular in which direction he wants to go in musically and that is forward. I don't know if there is such a thing as going forward in music. It is either up, down, sideways or backwards. It goes in a circle. The intent that goes in to behind making a piece of music is as important as the perception of that piece of music. The intent is to go forward. If you go backwards, then forget it. It doesn't work. We don't go back and go through old tapes".



Even since Sammy Hagar joined the band, almost every thing they recorded was released. "I can only think that for the 11 years I was in the band there is probably only three unfinished songs that we worked on, just like there is four from this one and we only released three".



According to Hagar, "you wouldn't want to hear it. It is not done. The lyrics aren't done, the melody is not done and the structure is not there. It was left half cooked. The idea is probably still good but I doubt if we would ever go back and use it because when we get back together and go in the studio it is about where you are at at that moment, not about something you did back there and trying to rekindling that. It is much better to go fresh every time. It is more inspiring. It is like going back to your old girlfriend".



The three news songs that made the Best of Both Worlds are 'It's About Time', 'Up For Breakfast' and 'Learning To See'. All three songs were created on the fly after Hagar rejoined the band. "For one thing we don't keep an accurate log of when the idea came to mind or when the music came to fruition" Alex says. "It is kind of nailed jello to the wall. It just comes and it goes. It just happened that when the four of us got together we played as much music as Sammy could digest and the one's that really stuck in his head were the ones that we worked on. It was nothing more or nothing less than that. It was that simple".



"It was kind of when I first walked in, Ed and Al had been in the studio for a couple of years and they had a lot of ideas floating around with no lyrics and no song structure" Sammy said. "It was hard for me to digest at first but because of the time limit, as soon as we got together we said lets go out on tour which is what we like to do more than anything, play live, I picked on the ones that instantly sang to me, ones I thought I could come up with some good lyrics for. In a way it sounds like I took the easy road with the ones that just presented themselves. Otherwise we would still be in there sorting through music".



"There is enough music for 100 years in that studio to write songs for laying around on the floor" he adds. "We had four songs and the forth one never got completed. These three got done in time to go out on tour and I mean barely. We were still in the studio mixing and rehearsing at night and mastering and being on tour. It was pretty intense. These three were the ones that came naturally to us".



Van Halen has just released their compilation The Best of Both Worlds.

[5150Clown]

It amazes me how Alex tries to sound as if he was some sort of college professional. Al...you're a freak'n drummer. You beat on stuff for a living. And all of a sudden, Ed decides everything?

These sisters piss everyone off. If it wasn't for the early years of VanHalen, these dicks would be hated by everyone.

[Dave's PA Rental]

great thread...

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