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  • bueno bob
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22951

    #16
    Originally posted by Hummarstra
    I think some of us listen more critically than others - especially if you're a guitar player who has studied Ed's playing. I saw this tour and Ed played sloppy - period. He may have played better at other gigs but, the difference is light years from where he was even in the nineties. I saw VHagar in the 90's and THEY PLAYED FLAWLESSLY the night I saw them. But, this last show was shit.
    Like I said, opinions are going to vary, and when you're playing live, it can often times go either way...particularly when you're in a band like Van Halen, and playing live isn't "fun" anymore, it's "business" (Mike's own words from a '91 interview).
    Twistin' by the pool.

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    • Panamark
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jan 2004
      • 17161

      #17
      I also believe a lot of the Hagar sheep dont pay as much attention
      to detail, with Ed's classic guitar work. Hell, those cats find Sammy's
      lyrics stimulating.. Theres no way they could reach the depths of
      the song where individual notes are distinguished..

      I think if it sounds thereabouts, the Sheep are like "EDDIE IS THE
      KING MAN" SAMMY RULES"

      You know its the truth...
      BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
      Love ya Mary Frances!

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      • Matt White
        • Jun 2004
        • 20569

        #18
        Yup, I've heard the boots and seen the footage from this tour, and it SUCKS!!! You can try and dress it up as much as you want, but it STILL sounds like SHIT!!! NO amount of rationalization by ANYONE is gonna change my mind. I have played guitar LONG enough and studied EVH's style LONG enough to know when he is ON and OFF. Everything I've heard from this tour is WAY OFF!!!
        If you enjoyed it, more power to you. I HATE Van Hagar!!! The SISTERS are DEAD to me. I will only go see them with DAVID LEE ROTH. FUCK THEM!!!!

        DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #19
          I saw Van Hagar twice...

          I enjoyed it...

          It was very very polished with a great loud live sound...

          Even then, Edward wasn't what he was when Dave was around....

          This new shit is embarrassing in comparison...

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          • Matt White
            • Jun 2004
            • 20569

            #20
            A WISE WOMAN once said "You can put a racing harness on a mule, but everybody will know IT'S STILL A MULE."


            FUCK YOU Van Hagar!!!!

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            • tjvhou812
              Full Member Status

              • Mar 2004
              • 4216

              #21
              does it seem cold in here to you
              Originally posted by RIKK

              Now, tj was indeed a major cunt. Indeed, he probably still is.

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              • MAX
                Rotharmy Gladiator

                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jan 2004
                • 13001

                #22
                Ahhhhhh...... The '88 Tour....

                That was a stellar show!

                TJ,

                Something like that would make a stellar avatar!!!! Get to work and dump the one you have. C'mon bro, we just parolled you? Don't make us look bad?
                EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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                • chefcraig
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 12172

                  #23
                  Man...there are so many of you folk I'd like to quote and agree with, yet I edit like old people fuck.

                  Being someone who actually put in work hours to pay for a ticket to the VH show here in Ft. Lauderdale ( for 87 dollars and fifty cents...we will get back to that)...you honestly want to know what hurt me most?

                  Disappointment.

                  I really, truly disbelieve this "You had to see them at (fill in the blank)"
                  .

                  I guess I was looking in the wrong place for fullfillment...and that truly is my fault.

                  I was not looking for transcendance...I just wanted to smile.



                  TO DOWNLOADERS:

                  Save your time dowloading boots from this tour...

                  Dave Roth once said, to the effect: "Hey, they can't all be jems."

                  Well...IMO, good luck finding any.


                  Again, IMHO.

                  And about that $87.50...can anyone (besides me) calculate how much beer, steak, ribs or seafood (including lobster, clams, mussels, oysters...ect.) that money could have been used upon?

                  ...craig
                  Last edited by chefcraig; 09-19-2004, 10:14 PM.









                  “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                  ― Stephen Hawking

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                  • EbDawson
                    Veteran
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 1674

                    #24
                    Originally posted by c.craig

                    And about that $87.50...can anyone (besides me) calculate how much beer, steak, ribs or seafood (including lobster, clams, mussels, oysters...ect.) that money could have been used upon?

                    ...craig
                    Definitely would've financed several trips to Hooters!
                    "If anyone came here hoping to hear Sammy Hagar Van Halen, there's the fucking door, man!" Ralph Saenz, Atomic Punks

                    "Carpe Mammarium"

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                    • guwapo_rocker

                      #25
                      Watch the New Jersey boot, iti is truly pathetic.

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                      • Rikk
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 16518

                        #26
                        Originally posted by tjvhou812
                        does it seem cold in here to you
                        What's there to do tonight...anything?
                        Roth Army Militia

                        Originally posted by WARF
                        Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                        • Rikk
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 16518

                          #27
                          Originally posted by guwapo_rocker
                          Watch the New Jersey boot, iti is truly pathetic.
                          I downloaded and burned the New Jersey boot (BitTorrent)...pure curiousity. DVDs cost me about a dollar now, so it was no chore. Anyway, it was a monstrosity. I sat and watched 10 minutes of it and then (I kid you not) threw the DVD in the garbage. It was awful. The band was lame, Ed did NOT play very well...but Sam was the worst. His singing on even his new songs was piss-poor, and the performance of UNCHAINED I sat through made Gary Cherone look like Dave in 1979.

                          This tour is a joke. The band knows they can't do this again.
                          Roth Army Militia

                          Originally posted by WARF
                          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                          • Rikk
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 16518

                            #28
                            POOP BOY...we want to parole you! Change the avatar!
                            Roth Army Militia

                            Originally posted by WARF
                            Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                            • VH LINKS SUCKS
                              Foot Soldier
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 639

                              #29
                              Originally posted by ELVIS
                              I've listened to boots from this tour and I think it totally SUCKS!

                              Fuck you internet sympathizers!

                              I know what the fuck I'm hearing!

                              I don't need it spelled out to me...


                              I agree with you that the live tracks sound like SHIT! Spam sucks the big one on this tour!

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                              • moose
                                Veteran
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 1988

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Rikk
                                What's there to do tonight...anything?
                                Gimme another cigarette!

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