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  • Panamark
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 17161

    #16
    Originally posted by Northern Girl
    Panamark,
    What article is she trying to find for ya? Maybe someone else can help?

    G'day NG,

    I posted a thread called "DLR Biography" in MAIN.
    The article alluded to there being more than two tracks
    in 96. Kristy recalled reading an article about the song
    selections around 96, and was trying to dig it up..

    But what she posted here just about answers the question
    anyway.
    BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
    Love ya Mary Frances!

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    • Kristy
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 16731

      #17
      And by the way, "LSD" meant "Lead Singer Disease" according to Eddie.

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      • scottydabodi
        Crazy Ass Mofo
        • Jun 2004
        • 2541

        #18
        I'd like to state for the record that there's a difference between a guy who KNOWS WHAT HE'S DOING, and a guy with LSD... Dave knows EXACTLY what he's doing, and the whole "LSD" thing is Ed trying to DISCREDIT Dave, and put DLR's role in VH's success down to a minimum... AND Dave hooked Ed up with a Cancer-doc, THEN ED PULLS MORE BULLSHIT?!??!!!??!! FFFUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK EEEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed=Douche.
        If you listen to fools
        The Mob Rules

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        • Matt White
          • Jun 2004
          • 20569

          #19
          FUCK EVH!!!

          DAVID LEE ROTH does MORE classy things by accident than EVH has done on PURPOSE in his entire life!!!








          DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!!

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          • scottydabodi
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jun 2004
            • 2541

            #20
            Originally posted by Matt White
            DAVID LEE ROTH does MORE classy things by accident than EVH has done on PURPOSE in his entire life!!!

            DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!!
            EVH=DOUCHE EVH=DOUCHE EVH=DOUCHE EVH=DOUCHE EVH=DOUCHE!!!!!!!!!! Dave = CLASS. And that's the DAMNDEST bottom line I ever Bottom LINED!!! Dave hooks Ed up with a Doctor, THEN Ed tools DLR?!??!!!! What a fucking COCK!!!!!!
            If you listen to fools
            The Mob Rules

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            • Matt White
              • Jun 2004
              • 20569

              #21
              "We were gonna be friends!!!"EVH
              While sticking a knife in DAVE's back by reducing his share of royalties.
              Friends like that DAVE (OR ANYBODY!!!)doesn't need!!!



              DAVE OR THE GRAVE MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

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              • Kristy
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 16731

                #22
                I'll type more excepts from the interview - if anyone gives a shit.

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                • Panamark
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 17161

                  #23
                  Yeah - we give a shit Kristy ! go for it
                  BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                  Love ya Mary Frances!

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                  • Bad Muthafucker
                    Foot Soldier
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 527

                    #24
                    Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
                    here are the titles of the leftovers dave refused to do:

                    it's about time
                    up for breakfast
                    learning to see
                    LMAO! how true....
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...7qatW5tds&NR=1

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                    • Northern Girl
                      Full Member Status

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3958

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Panamark
                      G'day NG,

                      I posted a thread called "DLR Biography" in MAIN.
                      The article alluded to there being more than two tracks
                      in 96. Kristy recalled reading an article about the song
                      selections around 96, and was trying to dig it up..

                      But what she posted here just about answers the question
                      anyway.

                      Fairy nuff! It was the "DLR has LSD" subtitle that made me wonder. I just read an article by Eddie not that long ago where he said that. And he actually said something positive about Dave. He said both Dave and Sammy have LSD but at least Dave never lied to him.
                      Same ole song and dance...

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                      • Matt White
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 20569

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Northern Girl
                        Fairy nuff! It was the "DLR has LSD" subtitle that made me wonder. I just read an article by Eddie not that long ago where he said that. And he actually said something positive about Dave. He said both Dave and Sammy have LSD but at least Dave never lied to him.
                        I remember that interview Northern Girl. Typical EVH SPIN. EVERYBODY ELSE is screwed up but EVH. Listen, if DAVID LEE ROTH had LSD, EVH would NEVER leave his side. EVH is such a DRUG ADDICT, he'd make sure anybody with LSD was always nearby.

                        DAVE OR THE GRAVE BABY!!!!!

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                        • Northern Girl
                          Full Member Status

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3958

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          I'll type more excepts from the interview - if anyone gives a shit.
                          Here's the whole thing. Same interview I was talking about.

                          By Steven Rosen
                          Licensed from International Features Agency

                          By now, only the brain dead are unaware of the changes that have rocked the Van Halen camp. Singer Sammy Hagar is gone, his solid gold locks nothing but a memory. David Lee Roth, absent for over a decade, returned to appear on a pair of new tracks available on the band's Greatest Hits, the band's first such package ever. But despite feverish speculation that the flamboyant singer would rejoin Van Halen, fate and, in all likelihood, Eddie, deemed otherwise: Roth is out, history for the second time. Of course, Van Halen had a powerfully felt reason to reject a reunion that would, if nothing else, been a diamond-studded cash cow for the group.

                          "We're from different planets; we don't communicate," says Eddie of Roth. "We just don't see things the same way. I'm not saying that he's a bad person at all-I actually fuckin' love the guy. But I don't need that kind of negative energy around me. I don't know how to explain it, but Dave kinda sucks the life out of me."

                          So instead of David Lee Roth making a dramatic re-entry into the Van Halen fray, a dark horse candidate emerged and was handed one of rock's plum jobs outright. It is none other than the "More Than Words" man, Extreme's Gary Cherone. Cherone, known for his acrobatic stage antics and extraordinary vocal range, impressed Eddie with his quite manner: "He's like a brother. He's shy, he's a quiet guy and has no fuckin' attitude. He's just a beautiful human being. Plus, the guy sings and sounds like an angel."

                          Van Halen, who despises the politics of the music business as much as Roth revels in it, has, these past few uncertain months endured a romp through hell without sunscreen. In an intimate conversation which began at his Hollywood Hills hideaway and ended three days later with a frantic game of phone tag, he shared with Guitar World his view of Van Halen's massive implosion, and looked back at the 20 spectacular, if turbulent, years, captured on the new album, best of Van Halen, Volume One.

                          GUITAR WORLD: The last few months have been difficult ones for the band.

                          EDWARD VAN HALEN: Yeah, the last three months have been a full plate-and a few desserts I didn't plan on ordering. There had been a variety of conflicts brewing between Sammy and the band since I quit drinking on October 2nd, 1994. Then things really came to a head when we began work on the soundtrack to the movie Twister. It got so bad that I actually started drinking again.

                          GW:What were some of the more nagging issues?

                          VAN HALEN: Well, in the last couple of years Sammy went through a lot of changes; he divorced his wife of 23 years and, possibly because of that, stopped being a team player. He was especially irritated by the fact that I began to get involved with the lyric writing. Sammy would say, "You never complained about the lyrics before!" Well, I wasn't sober before, and I wasn't even listening to the lyrics!

                          We actually had problems on every album except for 5150. But things got really ridiculous when we started working on the music for Twister. Alex had called up the director, Jan De Bont, to ask him how closely he wanted the lyrics to relate to the movie. De Bont said, "Oh, please don't write about tornadoes."

                          So we put him in contact with Sam, who called me and said, "I had a great conversation with De Bont and everything is cool." Then De Bont rang me up and was like, "Uh, Sammy is a little strange. I kept telling him that he shouldn't write about tornadoes, but he still kept insisting that I fax him tornado-related technical jargon. Does Sammy just want to learn about twisters for his own personal reasons?" So what lyrics did Sammy come back with? "Sky is turning black, knuckles turning white, headed for the hot zone." It was total tornado stuff!

                          We had had the music for the song completely done for six weeks, during which time Sammy had refused to fly to the studio from Hawaii, and suddenly the deadline was on us and we had no lyrics. So I was on the spot, and I came up with the title "Humans Being" and a melody. When Sammy finally showed, he, [producer] Bruce Fairbairn and I ended up writing the lyrics together at the last minute. Sammy sang the track in an hour, because he had another flight to catch.

                          GW: There were a lot of rumors circulating that Sammy was unhappy with the band because he felt he was being forced into projects he didn't want any part of.

                          VAN HALEN: Sammy was dead against the Greatest Hits package, because he was afraid it would lead to comparisons between him and David Lee Roth. I said, "Wait a fuckin' minute, Sammy, this band has been putting out records for 20 years and never put out a greatest hits-but you already have two of them [Best of Sammy Hagar, 1992; Unboxed, 1994]!" In his mind, he was always a solo artist. He was only into being in Van Halen for the prestige of it.

                          GW: You've recently begun collaborating with super-producer Glen Ballard [Alanis Morissette, Aerosmith], who co-wrote the two new songs on the Greatest Hits. What was Sammy's reaction to that?

                          VAN HALEN: We had several band meetings with Sammy where we told him that if he wanted to continue with Van Halen, he had to stop running around doing all his solo shit and become more of a team player-and that that might involve collaborating on a lyrical level. He said, "No problem." We had another meeting to reiterate that after the premiere of Twister.

                          So right after that, we began working on this song "Between Us Two," which we thought it had amazing potential. Sammy Called Mike [Anthony, bass] one afternoon and said, "I heard that Glen has some great ideas for the song. I'm really excited." Then he called me that night to give me his fax number so I could fax over Glen's lyrics. Then, suddenly, he just started screaming at me: "This is a fucking insult! I ain't gonna sing someone else's bullshit!" I was totally startled. Finally I said, "Okay, forget the new lyrical treatment, but at least come down, take another pass at the performance and change a few lines." He just answered, "Yeah, well, whatever."

                          That's when I finally put my foot down. I said, "Sammy, if you're not at the studio by six o'clock tomorrow, don't ever bother coming back." The next day, he showed up like nothing had ever happened-like he hadn't yelled and screamed at me. Did he think I was some idiot who didn't remember what had happened the night before? I'm sober now, dude.

                          Glen and I were sitting there working on the song, and the opening line was something like, "I want to see you/I want to know who you are"-kind of a Dark Side of the Moon vibe, the premise being, "I want to touch your soul, I want to get to know you." Then Sammy decided to change it to some shit like, "I can't see your diamond ring/through your shining star." I was like, "Sam, please, Glen's got some great lyrics here, just go with them." His only reply was, "If I thought those lyrics were better, I would sing them... besides I have an eight o'clock plane to catch." And he just left. Glen and I were dumfounded. Then Glen asked me, "How long has this been going on?" I said, "Longer than I'd care to mention."

                          So anyway, that was the last straw. I called Sammy a bunch of times and, when he finally returned my call, I said, "Sam, if you want to make another record or do another tour, you've gotta be a team player." He finally said, "Yeah, goddamnit, I'm fuckin' frustrated. I want to go back to being a solo artist." And I said, "Thank you for being honest."

                          We ended up hanging up like everything was cool because it was all out in the open. He'd admitted that he wanted to do solo stuff. And I said, "Well, you can't be in a band and that, too, so see ya." I didn't fire him-he quit. I'll put it very simply: Dave and Sam both suffer from L.S.D.: lead singer disease. Except Dave never lied.

                          GW: How did Dave come back into the picture?

                          VAN HALEN: He happened to call me around the same time Sammy quit, because Warner Bros. had notified him that Greatest Hits was going to come out, and he had a few questions about the packaging and other details. I told him I didn't know yet, but would let him know next week. We were on the phone for about 45 minutes and we apologized for things we had said back in high school-even junior high. It was probably one of the best conversations I've ever had with him. Especially since as long as I've known him, we were never really friends. We were just from different planets. But band-wise, it just seemed to work. A few days later, instead of calling him, I decided to drive over to his house and fill him in.

                          GW: What was that like?

                          VAN HALEN: We just had a great time bullshitting. We hung out for three hours and smoked some cigars. About two weeks later, I realized that the only new track that we had for the greatest hits was "Humans Being," and I came up with the crazy idea of having Dave sing on a couple of new songs. We thought about it for a couple of days and said, "Yeah, why the fuck not?" So I called Dave and asked if he'd be interested. He said "Sure, I'm not doing anything." I was very clear that he was not in the band-that it was just a project. What I wanted to do was write five new songs and pick two out of those five.

                          We had a little bit of a difficult time because it was a struggle to find anything that would inspire him and that he could connect to. But during the process, Dave and I were really becoming good friends. In my heart I really wanted to believe that he had changed a bit. We worked and worked and he actually thanked me for hanging in there with him. And I said, `Well you're a trooper, however long it takes and whatever. It's about making it a good song. There's no time frame here, it doesn't have to be done tomorrow. I just wanted to find something you liked and I'm glad I found one."

                          GW: So the two of you were able to put all of your past acrimony behind you?

                          VAN HALEN: Oh, yeah, we were actually becoming friends. Before we went to the MTV Video Awards, we all sat down- [Van Halen manager] Ray Daniels, Dave, Al, Mike and I- because we knew we were going to get mobbed by the press. And it was actually Dave who said, "Let's tell the truth." Less to remember. And the truth is, we did two songs for Greatest Hits, we did two videos, and that's it.

                          We could go out there and make a killing on tour with Roth but we're not a nostalgia band. I would never just take somebody's money for playing old songs to bring back memories. If we ever did that with Roth, we'd have to write and record a new record and then play a few of the old ones. I'm sure a lot of fans of the band would love to see it-but some things are better left to memory.

                          GW: So why aren't you making a new record with David? Was there some sort of fracture?

                          VAN HALEN: Everything went to pieces at the MTV Video Awards. After we went out on stage to present the award to Beck, we started doing some interviews, and I was just telling the truth-"If we do a tour we'll have to write and record a new record. But before any of that can happen, I have hip replacement scheduled for December 16th, and that's going to put me out of commission for four to six months."

                          After doing a couple of these interviews, Dave's attitude changed. I asked him what was wrong, and he said, "Well, what's with this hip thing? Would you stop mentioning the hip thing?" I said "Okay, no problem. In the next interview I won't say a word about my hip." He turned to me and said, "You fuckin' better not." And man, I lost it! I yelled, "You motherfucker, don't ever talk to me or anybody like that again. Don't bother calling me anymore."

                          I thought he had changed, but two minutes on stage and a half-assed standing ovation and he turned right back into the old Dave that I hated.
                          Same ole song and dance...

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                          • Kristy
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 16731

                            #28
                            Yeah, that's the gist of it but not the entire interview. Wish I knew that - would have saved me a lot of typing. Doesn't matter though, Panamark is a decent guy so it was worth it.

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                            • Panamark
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 17161

                              #29
                              Great read Kristy ! Thanks for your effort. There is so much hope in
                              that whole article, that its torturous !!

                              Shows how close we got to the real deal again. And all because of
                              Ed's hip ?? Makes you wonder if Ed was blabbing on far too much
                              about it, or whether Dave wasnt cutting him enough slack..
                              Whatever the reason, I cant believe it got so close, and didnt happen.
                              Depressing really.

                              Thanks Kristy !
                              BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                              Love ya Mary Frances!

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