If Van Hagar is done,Why r new dates added!!

[JCOOK]

Ed doent' have dental insurance and he needs money for guitar lessons.

[bueno bob]

CCC (Clear Channel Communications) took a shot in the dark with this tour...essentially, they figured that Van Halen would make for a good comeback reunion tour, so they guaranteed Van Halen Inc. X amount of dollars per show, regardless of what the said show's turnout happened to be (they believed they would average, if I remember correctly, between 15,000-20,000 people).

As it stands, Van Halen has pulled in a rough average of somewhere between 7,000-11,500 or somewhere in that vicinity nightly (numbers aren't final yet, so I don't know for certain, and nobody will until the tours over).

CCC basically overextended themselves in paying for Van Halen's bills. In a nutshell, they guaranteed Van Halen and have spent more in promotion, advertisements, give-aways, etc, than what they expected to gross in profit.

Essentially, they spent five cents on a piece of candy, expecting to sell it to their friend for ten cents, but their friend only gave them 3 cents.

Now, basically it's an effort of plugging away with money at the slot machine hoping that three 7's are going to come up before the money's out. Essentially, that's all it is...hope that positive reviews are going to come back and influence the people who are fence sitting about the upcoming Van Halen concert to go see them.

CCC will lose money on this, that much is for certain, and they know it. It's just a question of how much money they'll be out at this point.

By all indications, however, CCC isn't happy, WB doesn't want anything to do with Van Halen at all unless something major happens (i.e. Roth comes back), and Ed and Sam are NOT getting along at all. This being the case, the band is simply out getting what it can get (wisely enough, I suppose) and CCC's wishing on every shooting star that it's all going to come out in the wash.

But, since nobody in Van Halen can decide from one day to the next whether or not they're recording, whether or not Hagar's going out with Ted Nugent this winter, whether or not anything's permanent, well, I'd suspect you'll see Sammy back with his Waborita buttbuddies anytime now...

[DavidLeeNatra]

btw... where is mr gslinger???

[TongueNGroove]

Originally posted by bueno bob
CCC (Clear Channel Communications) took a shot in the dark with this tour...essentially, they figured that Van Halen would make for a good comeback reunion tour, so they guaranteed Van Halen Inc. X amount of dollars per show, regardless of what the said show's turnout happened to be (they believed they would average, if I remember correctly, between 15,000-20,000 people).

As it stands, Van Halen has pulled in a rough average of somewhere between 7,000-11,500 or somewhere in that vicinity nightly (numbers aren't final yet, so I don't know for certain, and nobody will until the tours over).

CCC basically overextended themselves in paying for Van Halen's bills. In a nutshell, they guaranteed Van Halen and have spent more in promotion, advertisements, give-aways, etc, than what they expected to gross in profit.

Essentially, they spent five cents on a piece of candy, expecting to sell it to their friend for ten cents, but their friend only gave them 3 cents.

Now, basically it's an effort of plugging away with money at the slot machine hoping that three 7's are going to come up before the money's out. Essentially, that's all it is...hope that positive reviews are going to come back and influence the people who are fence sitting about the upcoming Van Halen concert to go see them.

CCC will lose money on this, that much is for certain, and they know it. It's just a question of how much money they'll be out at this point.

By all indications, however, CCC isn't happy, WB doesn't want anything to do with Van Halen at all unless something major happens (i.e. Roth comes back), and Ed and Sam are NOT getting along at all. This being the case, the band is simply out getting what it can get (wisely enough, I suppose) and CCC's wishing on every shooting star that it's all going to come out in the wash.

But, since nobody in Van Halen can decide from one day to the next whether or not they're recording, whether or not Hagar's going out with Ted Nugent this winter, whether or not anything's permanent, well, I'd suspect you'll see Sammy back with his Waborita buttbuddies anytime now...

Ok, and where is your evidence that CC is losing money? Exactly, you are just making up shit.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by TongueNGroove
Ok, and where is your evidence that CC is losing money? Exactly, you are just making up shit.

No evidence, sadly. Just the word from my cousin (who is actually pro Hagar, btw), who happens to work for CCC. He's not in any position to make decisions about the company, but he's high enough that he's in a position to listen to people talk, and talk people do.

He's actually pretty bummed out about it, since he's a Hagar fan. I, of course, am ecstatic!

Give it a few months. You won't hear anything directly out of CCC, in essence, "this tour was a failure", but the finalized numbers won't be pretty. My cousin's job would be on the line to drop anything outside of the company that would be specific, but the summarization will be mostly apparent.

I don't know where you get that I'm "making up shit". I haven't said anything at all that hasn't been reported in other outlets.

[Splooge]

Originally posted by TongueNGroove
Ok, and where is your evidence that CC is losing money? Exactly, you are just making up shit.

Fak you're stoooopid!!!!

[bueno bob]

This'll make him feel better:

[bueno bob]

TNG hard at work thinking:

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by TongueNGroove
Ok, and where is your evidence that CC is losing money? Exactly, you are just making up shit.

He isn't making anything up, Patrick.

I have similar CC radio sources from my 17 years in the biz and a friend fairly high up in the WB pecking order.

It is just the facts, man. Accept it or not, I really could not care less, but you will see it play out/wrap just as we've said.

Well, IF you take those damn rose colored glasses off, anyway.

[bueno bob]

Actually, I think they're "red" colored glasses...

[Antman]

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[TwoFoolsAMinute]

Tickets have been on sale for 2 weeks in Ames Iowa, and there's seats still available on the 10th row. And on ticketmaster they are now having aucitons for VH where you can bid on ticket prices.

[kcmusician]

Originally posted by The Godfather
Driving into work this morning Rita Wylde was doing her daily "rock report" She announced that if the current VH tour "contiues to be sucsessful" that there will be a new album and tour next year.Did anyone else catch this?

this is what i keep hearing...these fuckers are not done..............is it wishful thinking that r done on our part!!

I've heard the same thing.... I think they will be around for atleast another album and a tour.... After that, who knows? But it's premature to say they are done when it's obvious that they aren't.

Shaun

[ZahZoo]

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
btw... where is mr gslinger???

gslinger, gigolo, JustaHo, etc... were all the same person and got run outta here for being jackasses.

[Hecubus]

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