Is Eddie Van Halen washed up?

[Don Corleone]

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[kcmusician]

Originally posted by Panamark
you guys are not the same dudes that were saying how great
Ed ia playing Running with the Devil and Unchained at the moment ??

He totally fucks these songs up, from the clips I have seen.
He should be able to nail these in his sleep.. Yet I seem
to remember some here, saying, whats wrong ?? It sounds
great ?? Thats when I thought, Ok.. Obviously there are
Van Hagar fans out there that dont care when Ed is fucking
up. (Or dont realize it, when he does)

I haven't heard them play Running With The Devil, so I can't judge.... Unchained was pretty good, even though Ed did screw up here and there.... It's a fairly simple song, being in drop D and all.... So I don't know what he can't nail that one.... I can understand why he has trouble play The Seventh Seal, 'cause there are some wicked riffs in that one, but Unchained is kinda basic.

Shaun

[kcmusician]

Originally posted by Don Corleone
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Why must he go shirtless? I'm about ready to lose my lunch here!

Shaun

[bueno bob]

Well...I'd say that Ed's in a tremendous slump, myself. Do I think he's washed up and unrecoverable? Yes...and no. There are a lot of guitar greats who have been down the same road Ed's currently going (Eric Clapton comes to mind immediately).

I think Ed's in a tremendous career slump right now, as far as performance and ability is concerned, but I don't think it's entirely impossible for him to recover. Basically, he has to want to do it for himself and for the fans.

I'm not trying to play apologist for Ed at this point, not at all; I think he's wasted a lot of time and a lot of potential by wrecking his health, but I think with divine inspiration of some sort, he could recover. I don't think he's entirely gone yet...Van Halen 3 (say what you will about it) had a LOT of interesting things going on guitar-wise, but with the hip surgery, cancer, the booze, Valerie beating a trail out the door...it's probably all added up.

Most of this, of course, has been brought on by his own doing, but I do think that there's a real potential for Ed to pick himself up, dust himself off and amaze us once again.

The thing about it is that he has to WANT to do it...and I don't think he does...

...But anything can happen; this IS Van Halen we're talking about, after all. With the way things happen in this band, we could see Ed going into Betty Ford's tomorrow, swearing off booze permanently (and sticking to it), David coming back and the best album out of them since 1984.

ANYTHING's possible with these dudes.

Unfortunately, "possible" doesn't translate into "probable" in any language I'm familiar with.

[Thetruthbaby]

Put a fork in em'

VH are done. I've seen a very significant number of reviews for this tour where EVH's playing is mentioned as being shaky and hagar's voice being referred to as unable to hit the high's any longer. These things coupled with disappointing numbers in attendance and the lack of excitement generated by the 3 new tracks have marked them as dead men walking. If you think attendance was weak on this tour (a "reunion" no less) wait and see what happens if they attempt another tour with hagar. EVH should have swallowed his pride and toured with Roth in 96' then hang it up. It would have been huge and VH's legacy would have been cemented forever. Instead they've.........you know the rest.

[Big Troubles]

I suppose if we compare Ed today of Ed 20 years ago, yeah, he's finished. But a shitty Ed is still a pretty good fuckin' guitar player. Lets not kid ourselves here folks.

[CROWBAR]

Re: Put a fork in em'

Originally posted by Thetruthbaby
VH are done. I've seen a very significant number of reviews for this tour where EVH's playing is mentioned as being shaky and hagar's voice being referred to as unable to hit the high's any longer. These things coupled with disappointing numbers in attendance and the lack of excitement generated by the 3 new tracks have marked them as dead men walking. If you think attendance was weak on this tour (a "reunion" no less) wait and see what happens if they attempt another tour with hagar. EVH should have swallowed his pride and toured with Roth in 96' then hang it up. It would have been huge and VH's legacy would have been cemented forever. Instead they've.........you know the rest.

Amen brutha!

[Blacklisted]

I saw Van Hagar this summer and let me tell you this my friends. No matter how bad you thought Eddie plays... Its nothing compared to that fat fuck Sammy bouncing around on stage.... His solo shit... Fuck, dont even get me started on that.

DLR fucking RULES!

[JCOOK]

Eds' still my hero and always will be,not washed up... but he does look like he needs to "wash up"

[kcmusician]

Re: Put a fork in em'

Originally posted by Thetruthbaby
VH are done. I've seen a very significant number of reviews for this tour where EVH's playing is mentioned as being shaky and hagar's voice being referred to as unable to hit the high's any longer. These things coupled with disappointing numbers in attendance and the lack of excitement generated by the 3 new tracks have marked them as dead men walking. If you think attendance was weak on this tour (a "reunion" no less) wait and see what happens if they attempt another tour with hagar. EVH should have swallowed his pride and toured with Roth in 96' then hang it up. It would have been huge and VH's legacy would have been cemented forever. Instead they've.........you know the rest.

Did you attend a show on this tour? Didn't think so.... You don't know unless you were actually there, like me.

Shaun

[Halen High]

As long as he's working with Sammy, or any other singer he has no chemistry with, he will never produce anything approaching the halcyon days of 1974-85. He needs to sort himself out personally, get out of the comfort zone in the studio where he and Alex make all the rules, and be challenged again.

I don't think he respects Sammy as an artist and therefore 'can't be bothered' with how he plays or what he writes. The whole things an Alex-inspired sham.

I have not seen him play since the ill-fated VH3 days, but the reviews of his playing on this tour have been, for the most part, scathing.

[rustoffa]

I won't bother re-hashing my stance on a certain someone needing another certain someone to ignite the ol' "fury".

It might be the seventh inning stretch or the bottom of the ninth at this point.

Anyway, check the mirror stinky.....are ya reelin' in the years?

[kcmusician]

I agree that Ed might not respect Sammy, that may be some of the problem.... But I don't think he respects Dave either..... Besides, we all know that Alex is running things, that's obvious.... Eddie is Al's yes man these days.

Shaun

[Blacklisted]

Well put yourself in that position how the FUCK are you going to respect a fat fucking loser like Spammy.

DLR fucking rules and no matter what Van Hagar does there is no comparing the two. Best of Both Worlds should have been titled One World Conquering the Other.

[kcmusician]

Dave is the best singer for Van Halen, but I think Sammy writes some good songs in his own right.... He's written songs for many bands as well, he's not Dave but he's still ok with me.

Shaun