False Advertising...

[smaz]

If Dave was back with Van Halen, everybody would know that Van Halen were back with Dave. Van Halen fan or not, everybody would know. Ed would make sure the biggest advertising point is advertised, so if it was Dave that would be it. But this reunion, they're advertising it's Van Halen, not VH with Sammy. They must be ashamed to have him..............

But false advertising, I guess so. But technically as the band being advertised is Van Halen, anthing by Van Halen could be played. Dave or Sammy, it's Van Halen. It is appalling that they do that though. associate Dave with this current tour.........

[lms2]

True all of that. THEY should not use Van Halen era music to promote a Van Hagar tour... but look on the flip side of that. Who is being promoted?

ROTH ON. Thats all its saying. People who don't know the difference in the Dave era because of age or ignorance will certainly figure it out if/when they attend the show.

"Hey, this shit doesn't sound ANYTHING like what was playing on the radio..." Then they will wind up here at the Army getting an education. :D

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by smaz
If Dave was back with Van Halen, everybody would know that Van Halen were back with Dave. Van Halen fan or not, everybody would know. Ed would make sure the biggest advertising point is advertised, so if it was Dave that would be it. But this reunion, they're advertising it's Van Halen, not VH with Sammy. They must be ashamed to have him..............

But false advertising, I guess so. But technically as the band being advertised is Van Halen, anthing by Van Halen could be played. Dave or Sammy, it's Van Halen. It is appalling that they do that though. associate Dave with this current tour.........

Well, yeah, since the albums have been released under the name "Van Halen", I guess they can do it. But when you said this :

Originally posted by smaz
they're advertising it's Van Halen, not VH with Sammy. They must be ashamed to have him..............It is appalling that they do that though. associate Dave with this current tour

You pretty much summed up what I'm getting at.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by lms2
True all of that. THEY should not use Van Halen era music to promote a Van Hagar tour... but look on the flip side of that. Who is being promoted?

ROTH ON. Thats all its saying. People who don't know the difference in the Dave era because of age or ignorance will certainly figure it out if/when they attend the show.

"Hey, this shit doesn't sound ANYTHING like what was playing on the radio..." Then they will wind up here at the Army getting an education. :D

Once again, exactly

You so smartee pants!! :D

[Lou]

Originally posted by Matt White
Naw, love, this is more my style.

And there's a band that didn't DARE use the name "Led Zeppelin" after John Bonham died.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Lou
And there's a band that didn't DARE use the name "Led Zeppelin" after John Bonham died.

If only other bands would be so wise...wishful thinking, I suppose...

[smaz]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Well, yeah, since the albums have been released under the name "Van Halen", I guess they can do it. But when you said this :



You pretty much summed up what I'm getting at.

I suppose you could compare it to some awful shoe company using a nike shoe to advertise their product.........

[guwapo_rocker]

Re: False Advertising...

Originally posted by bueno bob
Local classic rock radio station in Portland, OR, "KGON", along with one or two other channels I've heard, has been giving away daily tickets to the upcoming Van Halen gig for about the last two to three weeks.

So I'm listening to KGON (it sucks, but it's all we've got), and they announce that, after their commercial break, they're going to be playing some Van Halen, a band "We haven't heard from for a long time now".

So, I think, well, what the fuck, it'll be Hagar, but I'm actually curious as to whether or not they're going to play anything new...not likely, I figure, but what the hell...

So, it pipes on, "Here they are, they're back after a long layoff, VAN HALEN"...

The song begins and guess what?

"EVERYBODY WANTS SOME".

Now I got really pissed off at this point. How many fuckers out there heard the same thing, are too busy working or too non-computer savvy to know that this is NOT a David Lee Roth fronted Van Halen?

I mean, fuck, there is a difference! How many tickets got sold because some 45-50 year old dude thinks to himself "SHIT, I haven't heard that song in ages! Man, I wanna go! Seeing David and Eddie together will be a GREAT way to blow off my work day!"

The DJ, of course, didn't bother to clarify at all, just added on the promotion that, if and when you win free tickets to the show, you get entered for a trip to two to Cabo or some such thing...no mention at all that this is NOT a Roth fronted Van Halen, just that it's "Van Halen"...

This bothers me. I think it's deceptive, and while I may be exaggerating the case, I don't think I'm entirely off kilter about it.

Now, children - DISCUSS.

I agree bob, but this has been going on since prior to the tour.

I believe (but have not seen or heard personally) that they actually

use some Roth tunes in their tv and radio ads.

Can you say class action!!??!!:D

[Halen High]

They don't dare use the three new songs to promote the tour.

I definately think it's false advertising and it's intentional. They are trying to create the illusion to those not in the know that if you come to a show you'll get that Classic VH experience, which a lot of people are looking for. Of course you don't.

[Halen High]

Originally posted by lms2
True all of that. THEY should not use Van Halen era music to promote a Van Hagar tour... but look on the flip side of that. Who is being promoted?

ROTH ON. Thats all its saying. People who don't know the difference in the Dave era because of age or ignorance will certainly figure it out if/when they attend the show.

"Hey, this shit doesn't sound ANYTHING like what was playing on the radio..." Then they will wind up here at the Army getting an education. :D

Great point!

To entice people to come to the tour, the brothers are forced to promote Dave. And along with Eddie's guitar, the most distintive aspect of the Classic tunes is Daves vocals, and his lyrical style.

[RogueHorseman]

Originally posted by lms2
...Then they will wind up here at the Army getting an education. :D

...and hot for teacher?

[DLRdelight!]

I agree that it is false advertisement. On my local classic rock station(klos, los angeles) when van hagar was coming around over here they would play roth era tunes and that is a complete blow off, but then ppl should know that they are with sammy

[smaz]

Maybe it's the DJ's that are the ones not in the know?? Or the only songs provided to the radio stations by the record label/advertisers are Roth era one's?

[Igosplut]

Originally posted by Halen High
They don't dare use the three new songs to promote the tour.

I definately think it's false advertising and it's intentional. They are trying to create the illusion to those not in the know that if you come to a show you'll get that Classic VH experience, which a lot of people are looking for. Of course you don't.

I dont usually respond to these threads, But this guy hit it dead on.

If the Spam years were as good as they'd like you to believe, why would they use any other cuts to promote a hagar tour......

Because the hagar music doesnt stand on its own....and never will...

[bueno bob]

The world just needs David Lee Roth with it's Van Halen. It just CANNOT be any other way.

Excuse me now while I go cry.