The Official Van Halen, "Tattoo" review thread.

[ToraToraTora]

Amazon UK have pulled the clip, bastards!

[if6was9]

How on earth do you justify passing judgement on an entire song or album based on a 20 second clip?

Name me any great album or song, and I can find you 20 seconds which don't even begin to tell the story...are you serious, man?

Are you suggesting that thay have intentionally chosen the worst 20 seconds from the album to promote it??? That would be an extremely odd strategy

[jhale667]

Are you suggesting that thay have intentionally chosen the worst 20 seconds from the album to promote it??? That would be an extremely odd strategy

Not the worst, but much like a movie, you don't show all of the explosions and car-chases in the TRAILER...duh...

[SNIPER]

I think they took it off

[Rikk]

Man, but this shit is a sample of the single. Which means it's supposed to be the best part of the most catchy track from the album.

For crying out fucking loud, you haven't even heard the song. Before going on a bender, give the whole song a listen. If all anybody heard of JUMP was the outro, it wouldn't say shit.

Even then, that was a song that many VH fans had to hear a ton of times before getting on board with. Some never did, but 30 seconds does not tell you about a whole song. If if did, all songs would be 30 seconds.

[ThrillsNSpills]

Are you suggesting that thay have intentionally chosen the worst 20 seconds from the album to promote it??? That would be an extremely odd strategy

Well if they were the ones that did it it wouldn't have been taken down.

[Rikk]

I think a lot of what the non-musicians are missing is...that's what old demos are for (imagine a few others here will back me up on this)....hello? Every band/artist does it... and usually when it comes time to write new material, you find you may want to re-visit something that you didn't get around to finishing the first time, even years later.

Bingo.

I make music with my band. Three or four of our latest songs are songs we started writing over 10 years ago. Listening to them finished is awesome...to me it feels like, "Why the hell didn't we finish working on that one back in the day?"

[kwame k]

I think a lot of what the non-musicians are missing is...that's what old demos are for (imagine a few others here will back me up on this)....hello? Every band/artist does it... and usually when it comes time to write new material, you find you may want to re-visit something that you didn't get around to finishing the first time, even years later.

Pretty much......or the album is taking a direction that is perfect for an old song we did back then because it didn't fit the direction we were going at the time.

Or.....you worked up a song that was good, even great but could never quite get it right and you come back to it years later and it's the right place/time and you nail it!

The first song I had ever written didn't make it onto an album until 15 years later.

[kwame k]

Bingo.

I make music with my band. Three or four of our latest songs are songs we started writing over 10 years ago. Listening to them finished is awesome...to me it feels like, "Why the hell didn't we finish working on that one back in the day?"

Yep........

[if6was9]

Well if they were the ones that did it it wouldn't have been taken down.

Good point. Let's wait for the right one, then.

[Calderone]

im pretty confident , passing the keys to dave + vh as a team is the magic ! they are back and will kick our asses real hard !

[FORD]

Amazon UK have pulled the clip, bastards!

Of course they did. No doubt under orders of the US division of Universal Music Group (parent company of Interscope).

US record corporations & RIAA corporate fascists just can't fucking stand the fact that you might hear even 30 seconds of a new song without those fucking bastards making money from it.

[VHscraps]

I think a lot of what the non-musicians are missing is...that's what old demos are for (imagine a few others here will back me up on this)....hello? Every band/artist does it... and usually when it comes time to write new material, you find you may want to re-visit something that you didn't get around to finishing the first time, even years later.

Right on. It's what artists, do, period. Writers, painters, you name it - they are always revisiting ideas and unfinished works.

Jeez, WTF is the problem ...

[conmee]

Brethren and Sistren,

It's hard to tell from the clip, and based on the video, the plodding pace has to give way to something faster and with a chorus. I agree if Dave ends up doubletracking his voice for backing vocals, it's gonna sound like solo DLR, especially with the keyboard filler. What I hear from the snippet is Skyscraper-esque plus CGTSNM but with a more pronounced/fat sound. Even if Al/Ed/Wolf don't sound exactly like Classic, they need to do backing vocals. I'm no Mikey apologist, and I'm stoked whether he's in the band or not, but without his voice is like a missing instrument in the Van Halen orchestra. We're not missing something as important as a violin, but he wasn't a recorder/french horn either (weirdos who played in jr high band know what I'm getting at lol).

But here's a HUGE plus regardless: DLR lyrics. No more love, jive, baby, hey every third word. Already like "...speaking cherry red, screaming 'lectric green, purple mountains majesty..." and something about "housewife to bombshell" in seconds flat or something before cutting off.

Anyhow, I'm stoked. There are 13 songs plus or minus a solo and perhaps instrumental intro plus a few reworked demos and a cover. We could still be in for 8 BRAND NEW all original tunes depending on the makeup of the song selection.

Last note. I think not everyone agrees that Jump is the strongest or rockinest song of 1984. Let's not assume Tattoo is the best song off the record and let's not assume the 20sec clip was the best part. I was on iTunes listening to longer samples and they managed to pick the weakest 90secs of a couple songs (yeah they were some 80s songs so not hard to pick 90secs worth of bad, but you get my drift).

That is all.

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[bru87tr]

I can't get the clip to play on Amazon.

Found this though for anyone having trouble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE6LI1xISto