David Lee Roth - A Lil' Ain't Enough

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58920

    David Lee Roth - A Lil' Ain't Enough



    Apparently the story here is that eMpTyV aired this video once and then banned it for eternity. I have to admit, I never saw it before now.

    Don't know what the network's objections were at the time, but I'm reasonably sure the midgets in blackface would certainly be enough to get it yanked off the air today. Not sure what Dave was thinking with that idea. Other than he had to fill screen time somehow, since Jason Becker obviously wasn't going to be in the video.
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  • Terry
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 11984

    #2
    Mmmm, not so much re: MTV airing that video once then banning it forever.

    I remember seeing the video air on MTV more than a few times when the album was first released. I don't recall anyone saying anything at the time about the midgets in blackface one way or the other.

    Roth's solo career had already peaked with Skyscraper in terms of commercial relevance. By the time ALAE came out in early 1991, that whole genre of hard rock - nobody back then ever called it hair metal - was sort of waning. Although the Seattle sound wasn't making waves just yet, it was literally just months away before it would. Doubtless, releasing the album while the first Gulf War was underway didn't help in terms of general promotion and people's attention spans. However, it might also be said that the first single/title track really wasn't the strongest in terms of Roth solo material up to that point. A decent-enough song, but I can recall watching the video at the time and thinking that the song itself was...a bit boilerplate and typical, really. I ended up enjoying most of the rest of the album much, much more than the title track, and still do.

    Dave's career peak was in the 1980s. Really, nothing more complicated than that. It's not say everything he did post-1989 sucked. It is to say that in general factual terms the largest amount of public interest in his career happened in the 1980s.
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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58920

      #3
      Guess I somehow missed the video then. Or had completely forgot about it. But 1991's kind of a blur for me for any number of reasons. Can't even remember if I had cable TV the first half of that year, and probably didn't watch it much if I did.
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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49264

        #4
        Originally posted by FORD


        Apparently the story here is that eMpTyV aired this video once and then banned it for eternity. I have to admit, I never saw it before now.

        Don't know what the network's objections were at the time, but I'm reasonably sure the midgets in blackface would certainly be enough to get it yanked off the air today. Not sure what Dave was thinking with that idea. Other than he had to fill screen time somehow, since Jason Becker obviously wasn't going to be in the video.
        I'm pretty sure I saw this a few times around its release, maybe not just on MTV, there were several Canadian based video shows as well at night...

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32814

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD


          Apparently the story here is that eMpTyV aired this video once and then banned it for eternity. I have to admit, I never saw it before now.

          Don't know what the network's objections were at the time, but I'm reasonably sure the midgets in blackface would certainly be enough to get it yanked off the air today. Not sure what Dave was thinking with that idea. Other than he had to fill screen time somehow, since Jason Becker obviously wasn't going to be in the video.
          Dave is a huge fan of Al Jolson and Al was famous for his blackface performances. The midgets in blackface are a tip of the hat to Al Jolson. The video was probably yanked because media companies that depend on advertising don’t like controversy. Is Dave a racist? We all know he isn’t.
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          • Nitro Express
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 32814

            #6
            Originally posted by FORD
            Guess I somehow missed the video then. Or had completely forgot about it. But 1991's kind of a blur for me for any number of reasons. Can't even remember if I had cable TV the first half of that year, and probably didn't watch it much if I did.
            91 was a busy year. I was finishing my up MBA.
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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35276

              #7
              I don't think this was controversial at the time ,just starting to get a slightly tired - doubling down on the 1980s in 1991 and we had gone from a band in Yankee Rose to Dave and Vai in the horrible Stand Up video to just Dave trying to carry the whole thing.

              Looking forward to the farewell tour in October 2021, jeez that made me feel old.

              Ironically that sounds about the time tours could be restarting.

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49264

                #8
                Pretty much, I think the main cuntroversy was that the video felt dated and forced next to things that would be "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and "Alive"...

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58920

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  I don't think this was controversial at the time ,just starting to get a slightly tired - doubling down on the 1980s in 1991 and we had gone from a band in Yankee Rose to Dave and Vai in the horrible Stand Up video to just Dave trying to carry the whole thing.

                  Looking forward to the farewell tour in October 2021, jeez that made me feel old.

                  Ironically that sounds about the time tours could be restarting.
                  Biggest irony about the "farewell tour" is that Dave thought by 2021 that he would be fat, but still have all his hair.
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                  • sonrisa salvaje
                    Veteran
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2098

                    #10
                    I barely ever saw Stand Up from Skyscraper but saw this one a lot on MTV. I only saw Sensible Shoes a few times. The rarest one from this album was Tell the Truth. I NEVER saw it until years later and didn't even know Dave did a video for it. Loco Del Calor was also rare but MTV wasn't going to put a song in Spanish on heavy rotation.
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                    • Terry
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11984

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sonrisa salvaje
                      I barely ever saw Stand Up from Skyscraper but saw this one a lot on MTV. I only saw Sensible Shoes a few times. The rarest one from this album was Tell the Truth. I NEVER saw it until years later and didn't even know Dave did a video for it. Loco Del Calor was also rare but MTV wasn't going to put a song in Spanish on heavy rotation.
                      I saw Stand Up a bunch of times, although I tend to doubt it was aired nearly as much as Just Like Paradise.

                      The main reason I remember seeing the ALAE video air on MTV was that it was the last Roth promo I actually saw being played on MTV: I didn't see Tell The Truth get any play. Nor did I see She's My Machine or Night Life get any air play on MTV from the YFLM album, though it wouldn't surprise me if Tell The Truth was aired a few times during the spring of 1991. By the time YFLM came out, Dave was more famous for his pot bust in Central Park than his then-current solo album, which I can't even recall getting any type of mention in the media or reading a single review of it at the time, though doubtless it must have received both to some degree back in 1993.
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                      • sonrisa salvaje
                        Veteran
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 2098

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Terry
                        By the time YFLM came out, Dave was more famous for his pot bust in Central Park than his then-current solo album, which I can't even recall getting any type of mention in the media or reading a single review of it at the time, though doubtless it must have received both to some degree back in 1993.
                        I don't remember a national release party on the radio either. That had always been the case for Dave up to that time. I was done with MTV. I don't think I knew the album came out until a few days later. That was the first of which i didn't purchase on release day.
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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32814

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          I don't think this was controversial at the time ,just starting to get a slightly tired - doubling down on the 1980s in 1991 and we had gone from a band in Yankee Rose to Dave and Vai in the horrible Stand Up video to just Dave trying to carry the whole thing.

                          Looking forward to the farewell tour in October 2021, jeez that made me feel old.

                          Ironically that sounds about the time tours could be restarting.
                          Dave ran out of rocket sauce. Times were a changin and he was so good at his peak no way he could top it. Dave hit pay dirt during a magical time in pop culture that we will never see ever again. Once in a lifetime stuff. Tell your grandkids about it.
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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35276

                            #14
                            One way to look at it was he was 13 years into his recording career and had a longer run at the top than Robert Plant or John Lennon...

                            The ALAE tour and onwards was definitely when things started to go less well. Fashions, wrong thing at the wrong time and so on but he could have rode it out better if he had a band rather than hired hands, Surround yourself with the new cool kids and you can get away with it sometimes by reinventing yourself like Prince and Madonna. Not many managed it though. The other option would be the ACDC or Iron Maiden approach of just doggedly putting your head down and ignoring everything else around you for year after year riding the waves, It's easy to forget now that both of them had their troughs too.
                            Last edited by Seshmeister; 07-13-2020, 09:08 PM.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32814

                              #15
                              Talk to anybody who worked in the music business at that time. When the Seattle grunge thing happened The bottom fell out of that whole 80’s glam rock thing overnight. Dave pioneered the big hair spandex thing. Van Halen brought the Sunset Strip back to it’s old glory and grunge killed it. It’s business. The record label’s management goes to the new thing and you become the has been. The only place there was any real fan base left was Japan. Dave became dated and he was out of ideas and MTV was going towards long form programming and producing reality shows. The whole 80’s thing died and it died quickly without any warning. Nirvana was the left hook nobody saw coming and it knocked a trend that was probably past it’s sell date anyways on it’s ass.
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