Poundcake: The Real Version

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  • WARF
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 15347

    Poundcake: The Real Version

    This might have been Van Halen’s greatest song ever!

  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58931

    #2
    Sounds a lot better that way. So does this one.....

    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Terry
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 11986

      #3
      The non-vocal instrumentation on both of those tracks is good.

      Same goes for stuff like Pleasuredome, or the title track for 5150.

      It'd have been interesting to hear what Roth could have done on a track like Poundcake, although truth be told Hagar's performance on that particular track wasn't quite as grating to my ears as what he did on a lot of the other Van Hagar tunes...having said that, Poundcake does sound better with Hagar's vocals omitted.
      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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      • WARF
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jan 2004
        • 15347

        #4
        Terry I’m making a mashup of Mean Street with DLR Singing over poundcake .... I’ll post it soon.

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        • WARF
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jan 2004
          • 15347

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD
          Sounds a lot better that way. So does this one.....

          You can take almost any Van Hagar track and make it a classic without Hagars voice!

          Well... dream and when it’s love is unsalvageable...

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          • Terry
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Jan 2004
            • 11986

            #6
            There were usually at least two instrumental tracks on each Van Hagar album that purely in terms of what the guitar, drums and bass were doing I enjoyed, or wondered what Roth could have done with vs. Hagar...which...I mean, it became readily apparent rather quickly - from the get-go with 5150 - that in terms of singing in Van Halen, Hagar had a limited amount of ability lyrically and creatively. Thus, far all the razz one heard about Hagar being a 'better' singer than Roth on a technical level (outside of Hagar having a higher natural range or octave, I never quite understood why that claim was so often made, but more than a few people seemed to believe it), Hagar seemed unable to do much more than write Moon/June love lyric rhyme patterns or fob off witless hard rock gibberish for the non-synth tunes without a fraction of the wit Roth had brought to the table.
            Scramby eggs and bacon.

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            • Terry
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jan 2004
              • 11986

              #7
              Originally posted by WARF
              You can take almost any Van Hagar track and make it a classic without Hagars voice!

              Well... dream and when it’s love is unsalvageable...
              Stuff like When It's Love, or So Good, or Love Comes Walking In or Why Can't This Be Love...it all came off at the time (and still does today) like pop stuff that just about anybody could have come up with. These types of tracks, along with Dreams, aren't the type of stuff I would have the least bit of interest hearing what Dave could have come up with. Then again, I wasn't a particular fan of either Jump or I'll Wait when they came out, either, and most of what I do like with those tunes was what Dave did with them...I will say Jump had a bit of a majestic feel to it instrumentally that the Van Hagar synth stuff lacked.
              Scramby eggs and bacon.

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              • So this is love
                Veteran
                • Jan 2012
                • 2394

                #8
                I don't think EVH would have written these songs with DLR as singer. For example, Poundcake is not in DLRs singing register. I like the music but I don't hear DLR in that song. IMO, I think VH would have fared better with Patty Smyth than Hagar following DLRs departure...
                Now who`s that babe with the fab-u-lous shad-ow?

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49264

                  #9
                  Sounds a lot better that way. So does this one.....

                  The persistent rumor is that Dave completed a version of this song as a demo as "Eat Thy Neighbor", but it was destroyed by Ed when Sammy came onboard...
                  Last edited by Nickdfresh; 11-15-2020, 09:35 PM.

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                  • WARF
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 15347

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    The persistent rumor is that Dave completed a version of this song as a demo as "Eat Thy Neighbor", but it was destroyed by Ed when Sammy came onboard...
                    Maybe that will see the light of day now that Ed has passed. I feel horrible even saying that.... but RAPE the vaults!!!

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