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  • academic punk
    Full Member Status

    • Dec 2004
    • 4437

    #16
    Actually, in light of this, the wider picture is, was it right to delete Katydid's threads?

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    • Anonymous
      Banned
      • May 2004
      • 12749

      #17
      Originally posted by academic punk
      Actually, in light of this, the wider picture is, was it right to delete Katydid's threads?
      Er... yes. I mean, that wasn't censorship. She wasn't proclaiming her point of view about anything, she was just copy-pasting bullshit.

      Cheers! :bottle:

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      • academic punk
        Full Member Status

        • Dec 2004
        • 4437

        #18
        I knew we'd find some way to rationalize that!

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        • Anonymous
          Banned
          • May 2004
          • 12749

          #19
          Always a pleasure. :D

          Cheers! :bottle:

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          • Big Troubles
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Feb 2004
            • 8517

            #20
            Originally posted by Imapus Sylicker
            Why not? SIEG HEIL!

            By the way, how do you say in German "Where are your papers? Get in the train, NOW!" :D

            Cheers! :bottle:
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            • Lou

              #21
              Granted rotharmy.com isn't an arm of the government so this doesn't apply here, but under Constitutional law the government cannot censor speech based on the message of the speech unless it falls into some narrowly defined exceptions. They are for the most part "indecent" speech, "obscene speech," "fighting words," "incitement," or "defamatory" speech. But everything else goes.

              So yeah, pictures of penises which have zero scientific, literary or artistic value would not be protected speech. But core political speech--you better believe it is. The government would have to have one hell of a compelling reason to censor political speech and win in court. Brian's emoticon there is most definitely core political speech and frankly, that's bullshit to censor it.

              Replace the character in the emoticon with one of a guy chanting "Bush is a great president," and he gets steamrolled over, ya think FORD is gonna censor that one? Uh, NO. That's why it's total bullshit that got censored.

              You can't censor speech here unless it's truly obscene/indecent, etc. Period.

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              • Rikk
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Jan 2004
                • 16518

                #22
                Originally posted by Lou
                Granted rotharmy.com isn't an arm of the government so this doesn't apply here, but under Constitutional law the government cannot censor speech based on the message of the speech unless it falls into some narrowly defined exceptions. They are for the most part "indecent" speech, "obscene speech," "fighting words," "incitement," or "defamatory" speech. But everything else goes.

                So yeah, pictures of penises which have zero scientific, literary or artistic value would not be protected speech. But core political speech--you better believe it is. The government would have to have one hell of a compelling reason to censor political speech and win in court. Brian's emoticon there is most definitely core political speech and frankly, that's bullshit to censor it.

                Replace the character in the emoticon with one of a guy chanting "Bush is a great president," and he gets steamrolled over, ya think FORD is gonna censor that one? Uh, NO. That's why it's total bullshit that got censored.

                You can't censor speech here unless it's truly obscene/indecent, etc. Period.
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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49570

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Lou
                  Granted rotharmy.com isn't an arm of the government so this doesn't apply here, but under Constitutional law the government cannot censor speech based on the message of the speech unless it falls into some narrowly defined exceptions. They are for the most part "indecent" speech, "obscene speech," "fighting words," "incitement," or "defamatory" speech. But everything else goes.

                  So yeah, pictures of penises which have zero scientific, literary or artistic value would not be protected speech. But core political speech--you better believe it is. The government would have to have one hell of a compelling reason to censor political speech and win in court. Brian's emoticon there is most definitely core political speech and frankly, that's bullshit to censor it.

                  Replace the character in the emoticon with one of a guy chanting "Bush is a great president," and he gets steamrolled over, ya think FORD is gonna censor that one? Uh, NO. That's why it's total bullshit that got censored.

                  You can't censor speech here unless it's truly obscene/indecent, etc. Period.
                  I don't think it should have been censored either. But a kid was run over by an armored bulldozer, explain the joke to her family.

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                  • Bill Lumbergh
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Mar 2004
                    • 5472

                    #24
                    Originally posted by academic punk
                    LOU, that's complete bullshit. And if it were in my power, I'd delete your above statements entirely.


                    I wish we could delete every worthless Lou post EVER, ala Katydid..........

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                    • Cathedral
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6621

                      #25
                      I really should stay out of this...........so i will as far as my own opinion goes.

                      But here are the facts as they are presented to us.
                      This is a website, it is not governed by any laws but the law of Sarge.
                      Ford edits posts all the time, but he is never called on it by the higher powers, therefore he is supported in his actions, like it or not.

                      Another fact here is that he did not edit the text of the message, and THAT is what we are definately NOT allowed to do.
                      He removed what he percieved as an offensive emoticon, in basic terms, he did his job.

                      Again, I only stated facts and kept my personal opinion out of it.

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #26
                        The problem is, by deleting it, all FORD really did was give Brie reason to spam it all over the Frontline and bitch about it.

                        It got exactly what Brie wanted. Attention.

                        I have the utmost respect for FORD in here. We share the same home state, the same political leanings, and the same sense of the absurd.

                        But he played right into the trap in my opinion. Brie would love nothing more than to complain about FORD deleting them all.

                        Offensive? yes.

                        Insensitive? yes.

                        Shit if we used those reasons for deletion, there would be no DLRArmy.

                        I say give Brie his Tonka back. It may be all he has.
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                        • MAX
                          Rotharmy Gladiator

                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 13001

                          #27
                          I dunno how I feel about this?

                          I once deleted, edited and changed ONE word in MAIN. Mind you, it was malicious, self serving, both ego and power driven towards another poster. In hindsight, completely wrong but this sounds similar IMO. Needless to say, I was smacked like a puppy and most deservedly cos I broke the rules.

                          Hence, that is why I don't get this? Shouldn't we move this somewhere else?
                          EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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                          • Cathedral
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6621

                            #28
                            I wouldn't have deleted it, that is all i know for sure.
                            Do i like that emoticon? Nope.

                            My answer would be to just close the thread and avoid it from becoming a needless flame war for 100 pages, emoticon intact.

                            There, i ended up sharing my opinion any-damn-way.

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                            • MAX
                              Rotharmy Gladiator

                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 13001

                              #29
                              Yeah Cat but you're Eastbound and Down. What about us pussys? lol.
                              EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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                              • Dr. Love
                                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 7833

                                #30
                                FORD edits posts. It happens. There's no free speech right on this board.

                                If you don't like it, complain to Sarge.
                                I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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