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    Honestly, these days, the most interesting thing to come out of those 1980 Lennon/Ono sessions was the Walking On Thin Ice track far as my ears were concerned. Even with the Double Fantasy stuff, Lennon's tracks are a bit weak once one is able to just listen to them as songs and not attach a bunch of posthumous sentimentality to them. Not terrible, but not among Lennon's greatest solo tunes far as my ears went.
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    Yoko sucks and has always sucked.
    John Lennon sucked.
    The Beatles sucked.
    Paul McCartney sucked, and still sucks.
    Ringo seems kinda cool. Too bad he was in that shitty band.
    I can't remember the other fuckers name, but he sucked too.
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    I wouldn't say The Beatles, either as a group or as solo artists, sucked.

    I definitely don't value them nearly as highly as many others do re: pop music, or rock music. I never have, really.

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    I like Von...but that's fucking ridiculous.

    The Beatles did NOT suck. And I don't just love them because other people do.

    I get the same excitement for The Beatles (or a LOT of their solo stuff) that I do from VH.

    The one thing I will agree with (and I think even the band wouldn't necessarily deny this) is that they weren't a great live band. But I did see McCartney in 2011 at Soldier Field. Three hours. Fucking amazing.
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    LOL.

    One of my best friends who has forgotten more about rock music than I know 1% of has the exact same opinion of the Beatles as Von. Seems extreme to me.

    I don't listen to them but I have to give them credit for song writing. There is a bit of a counter though that they were a boy band and it's significantly easier to write pop songs before 100 million people start trying to write pop songs.
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    Also the other fucker Von can't remember was the best of them and ignoring absolutely everything musically he did with his life George Harrison did way more than the rest of them combined post Beatles including personally bankrolling the best comedy movie ever made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seshmeister View Post
    Also the other fucker Von can't remember was the best of them and ignoring absolutely everything musically he did with his life George Harrison did way more than the rest of them combined post Beatles including personally bankrolling the best comedy movie ever made.
    Yes.

    Not only did George Harrison make one of the greatest albums of all time (ALL THINGS MUST PASS) but he bankrolled the funniest movie ever made (LIFE OF BRIAN). There is no movie in history as funny as LIFE OF BRIAN. It's fucking perfect (and intelligent). I also love that a highly-spiritual man (which I'm not) bankrolled a movie that makes fun of organized religion in all its forms.

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    I wouldn't for a moment deny what The Beatles have meant to others...or the level of their commercial success...or their level of influence.

    Perhaps it was because I wasn't born until the year they broke up, but growing up The Beatles weren't more important to me than The Stones, The Who, The Doors, Led Zeppelin, Jimi Hendrix...in point of fact, The Beatles were less important to me than those other groups because I listened to The Beatles less.

    So many people - fans, music critics, etc. - consider The Beatles the greatest of all-time or whatever...I just never did.

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    Just noticed this:A Different Kind of Truth still up on Soundcloud
    Wonder if I can remix a track using a Van Halen 1 track as a reference?
    https://soundcloud.com/interscope/se...ferent-kind-of
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    Still not back on Spotify or Apple Music.

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    I feel the same about the Beatles, Terry - I would never deny their importance in the history of music, nor their grundbreaking innovations, and if you listen to some of the 1962 Hamburg LP, they kicked ass live as well.

    But they were the wrong generation for me. There are people who became teenagers in the 60s for whom the Beatles will always be this transcendent entity that changed their lives. I think popular music generations are almost like 5 years or so in length. Every five years things - up until the late 80s or early 80s, perhaps - changed. As someone who became a teenager in the 70s, that decade has had more of a lasting impact on me in terms of what I think is the best music of my life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VHscraps View Post
    I feel the same about the Beatles, Terry - I would never deny their importance in the history of music, nor their grundbreaking innovations, and if you listen to some of the 1962 Hamburg LP, they kicked ass live as well.

    But they were the wrong generation for me. There are people who became teenagers in the 60s for whom the Beatles will always be this transcendent entity that changed their lives. I think popular music generations are almost like 5 years or so in length. Every five years things - up until the late 80s or early 80s, perhaps - changed. As someone who became a teenager in the 70s, that decade has had more of a lasting impact on me in terms of what I think is the best music of my life.
    Like, I can understand someone...say, an American teenager who is 13 in 1963. The Beatles come to America and it is that explosion of Beatlemania. By the time The Beatles break up in 1970, that American teenager was then 20 years old...I can understand where The Beatles were literally the soundtrack of their youth.

    For someone like me born the year they broke up, while I had the Beatles albums handed down to me from my mother/uncles, aunts and older cousins when I was barely in kindergarten, I never knew of The Beatles while they were an actual functioning band. My earliest memories were when I was 5 years old, so that was...1975? Ringo wasn't getting much airplay in 1975 as a solo act. Neither was George. Lennon had basically retired. The only one still releasing solo stuff from 1975 to 1980 was McCartney. By the mid-1970's to the dawn of the 1980's, to me The Beatles were ancient history even though they had only broken up not too many years earlier. I wasn't reading Rolling Stone magazine back when I was 5 years old, so I didn't have exposure to that pseudo-lefty music media magazine telling me that The Beatles were the end-all, be-all of music.

    In 1980, I was far more upset that Peter Criss quit KISS than I was when John Lennon got killed. In 1980, I was 10 years old and John Lennon hadn't done anything publicly since...what, 1974? 1975? All I knew about John Lennon was he was a Beatle, and The Beatles by 1980 already seemed like a bunch of relics to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post

    In 1980, I was far more upset that Peter Criss quit KISS than I was when John Lennon got killed. In 1980, I was 10 years old and John Lennon hadn't done anything publicly since...what, 1974? 1975? All I knew about John Lennon was he was a Beatle, and The Beatles by 1980 already seemed like a bunch of relics to me.
    I was born in 1963. My Mom was one of the teenagers (obviously the end of her teenage years) that got caught up in Beatlemania. Essentially I was born listening to that garbage. I too was much more upset in 1980 about Criss, than Lennon. In fact, I celebrated when Lennon was killed. I know, probably slightly extreme looking back. But I don't regret it. By that time in my life I was into Van Halen, Kiss, Nugent, UFO, Thin Lizzy, Blue Oyster Cult and bunch of other bands. Of all the different bands and artists my Mom used to put on the record player in the mid to late 60's, the Beatles were always my least favorite. Motown? Better. Chuck Berry? Better. Elvis? Better. The Stones? Better. Hendrix? Better. Janis Joplin? Better. Zeppelin? Better. The Who? Better. CCR? Better. The Dave Clark Five? Better. The Band? Better. You get my point. Hell, even The Monkees were better! Case fucking closed!

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