White House Panicking Over Elections

[FORD]

GAyR the union basher wants to celebrate Labor Day?

Oh the irony......

[GAR]

OH scusey-moi.. I thought Union Day was held on May 1st.

[Sam42]

Yeah, I've never blindly voted a straight party ticket, either............I try to vote for the best candidate based on the information at hand.

How anyone thought that Obama was going to fix everything the day he was elected, either has zero concept of how this country works or was/is so desperate for any ray of hope that they'll throw common sense to the wind in hopes of a 4th quarter Hail Mary pass! Our system just doesn't work that way and correcting decades of abuse can't be done overnight. The real problem, IMHO, is that no politician is going to "sack up" and tell the American people that we need to sacrifice, tighten our belts, and heaven forbid.......pay for the trillions of dollars we squandered in two failed occupations and the rampant corporate greed we allowed to go on for decades.

I hear all this nonsense about taking this country back and going back to the Old School ways.........That's all fine and dandy but that requires effort and sacrifice, two things the American people have overwhelmingly shown they have no real interest in.

Unless you take away their couches and remote controls, I doubt you'll ever get more than the half-hearted, "We need a revolution in this country, what time does American Idol start?".

The real problem is that the two parties are brothers from the same mother. It doesn't really matter who or what party is elected, they have been bought out by the World Bankers to do their tasks for their control of the world.

The private federal Reserve, has finally been able to in trench themselves into becoming the all powerful entity that with the behind the scene world bankers in tow, are more powerful than any party, elected president, congress and even the American people. They control who and what party gets elected and with their control, can govern and make not only world policies but policies in the US.

Until we can rid ourselves from corrupt politicians on both side of the isle, and not allow the federal reserve and the world bankers to continue to play the calm vs chaos game with our economy and our freedoms, we will be part of their sick play that keeps us American divided and easy target for them to make their profits and our demise.

[GAR]

The real problem is that the two parties are brothers from the same mother.

Let's agree then to dismiss the Electoral College. We've had phone lines for 100 years now, mail-in ballots for 50 and internet for 20, so we don't need a controlled voting proxy system that's definately rigged.

[FORD]

Let's agree then to dismiss the Electoral College. We've had phone lines for 100 years now, mail-in ballots for 50 and internet for 20, so we don't need a controlled voting proxy system that's definately rigged.

The electoral college is indeed a useless relic of the past, but the electro-fraud machines are a much bigger threat. Until every last one of them is smashed to bits, we cannot say, for a fact, what the results of ANY election are, in a precinct where votes are "counted" by these machines.

Corporate financing of elections is the next biggest problem and the Opie Roberts court's Shittyzens United decision was 100% the WRONG direction. It took restrictions AWAY from the corporations and enabled them to spend whatever the fuck they want to control the message. How are candidates NOT backed by corporations (i.e the ones who would actually put the interests of the People first) supposed to compete with that?

Obvious answer: They're NOT. Which is why Opie Roberts - most horribly unqualified Supreme Court Justice ever - has sided with corporations in every case since Chimpy appointed him to his first judge gig in 2003.

Then there's the whore media. You had a whole year of primary debates leading up to the 2008 Presidential primaries. But how many of the "Democratic" primaries excluded Dennis Kucinich entirely? And how many of the Republican events locked out Ron Paul?

Debates should go back to being sponsored by the League of Women Voters, or a similar non-partisan, non-corporate funded body. And the moderators picked to ask the questions should be chosen the same way. And the debates should be just that - debates. Discussion of the issues. Not a pre-scripted set of questions.

So yeah, dump the electoral college. But let's make the popular vote legitimate first.

[GAR]

Wouldn't it be tamper-proof to log in to your voter registration account and cast a ballot that way?

Any errors or tampering, it would show up and you'd know about it. Plus, any recounts could be instantly tabulated.

[GAR]

But how many of the "Democratic" primaries excluded Dennis Kucinich entirely? And how many of the Republican events locked out Ron Paul?

Like Sarah Palin, all three of these bozos are semi-popular, but unfit for leadership.

Kucinich voted for the stimuli = GONE
Ron Paul = N****h please..
Palin = quitter

[vanhalen1r2]

The electoral college is indeed a useless relic of the past, but the electro-fraud machines are a much bigger threat. Until every last one of them is smashed to bits, we cannot say, for a fact, what the results of ANY election are, in a precinct where votes are "counted" by these machines.








So yeah, dump the electoral college. But let's make the popular vote legitimate first.

Seeing that the USA is a constitutional republic how would you protect states rights ??

[FORD]

Seeing that the USA is a constitutional republic how would you protect states rights ??

There's no such thing as a state's "right" to fraudulent elections. Though some states (Florida, for example) probably wish there were.

[Seshmeister]

I was stunned when I looked into how those machines worked a few years back. MS Access databases! In systems sold for 10s of millions of dollars!!??? Things may have changed but at that time there was effectively no security whatsoever in IT terms.

It's a little counter intuitive in the 21st century but the safest most transparent option is people putting crosses on bits of paper.

[Nickdfresh]

It's time for real Americans to abandon the left-right game...

You mean everyone should just be right wing and all would be well?

[Nickdfresh]

Here we sit almost two years into the Obama administration's reign, and the Democrats have finally figured out that citizens do not actively care all that much about restructured health care when they are by and large unemployed. Throwing a bunch of ill conceived, pork-filled and ultimately useless concepts into a 55 gallon drum, calling it a stimulus package and then patting themselves on the back for the "accomplishment" is equally absurd as the Bush regime declaring "Mission Accomplished" on the deck of an aircraft carrier in 2003. To compound this utterly inept way of thinking, the Democratic lead congress applies this same nebulous logic to repairing the economy, with equally insipid results.....

Sorry bud, but that's a very faulty analogy. There was no dire need to go to War against Iraq, we didn't have too. The economy was the economy and one that was largely inherited. I don't know how anyone could draw definite conclusions as I think without the stimulus, things would have been much, much worse...

[Nickdfresh]

The corrected unemployment rate, weighted realistically with part-time/timed-out unemployment benefits/temporary employment is 16.7 % percent.

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OBAMA is toast!

Except you're a complete idiot that completely ignores these statistics when you have a white Republican president...I mentioned long ago that U.S. unemployment statistics are largely a lie when compared to European ones because we stop counting someone as "unemployed" once their UI runs out. I think BigSadBrian blasted me for saying such apocryphal truths during the Bush regime...

[Nickdfresh]

OH scusey-moi.. I thought Union Day was held on May 1st.

When does the Mexican who stole your shitty job celebrate Cinco de Mayo?

[vanhalen1r2]

There's no such thing as a state's "right" to fraudulent elections. Though some states (Florida, for example) probably wish there were.

FORD, you want to take away states rights in the election process, why ? Lets not rehash Gore Vs GWB.