Dr. Dean lays the SMACKDOWN on the BCE's fucked up foreign policy

[FORD]

US Democratic opposition chief attacks Bush on Middle East

Fri Jul 21, 5:22 PM ET

Democratic National Committee chairman and former presidential hopeful Howard Dean accused US President George W. Bush of losing control of the Middle East by neglecting specific regional powers.

The opposition party chief said US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's planned trip to the region was an "important first step" but that she would have trouble finding a solution of the Lebanese conflict.

"The fact remains that the Bush administration has failed to substantially engage in the very difficult arena of Middle East peacemaking over the past six years," Dean said.

Dean said the Republican administration had to keep channels open with all regional players, despite its refusal to deal with either Syria or Iran, which it views as state sponsors of terror.

"Refusing to engage while talking tough and ignoring international problems is not a foreign policy. We must have a foreign policy that is both tough and smart," said Dean.

He called for "direct negotiations with all the people of the Middle East."

The "liberal" former Vermont governor was once a frontrunner in the race for 2004 democratic presidential nomination before his campaign fizzled out. (Or was more accurately sabotaged by the DLC and the whore media)

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[jcook11]

Tough and smart.....Hmmm....AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That'll scare off the sneaky bastards.

[FORD]

Originally posted by jcook11
Tough and smart.....Hmmm....AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
That'll scare off the sneaky bastards.

Worked for JFK in 1962, didn't it?

[Cathedral]

Yeah, i saw him foaming at the mouth politicising the issue today.
It sounded great too, if you ignore the actual history of the Clinton Administration.

Can you say, Antifada?

Hey, Clinton was on the right track, i give him credit for trying but, all he proved was that appeasment doesn't work...

How can you deal with people who want to kill you?
You can't, because you'll be dead before you sit down at the table.

That said, we need a NEW foreign policy unlike any this country has ever adopted.

[FORD]

Clinton would have been remembered as a hero if he had succeeded at getting Rabin and Arafat on paper. And the only reason that deal failed to go through was that the Likud murdered Rabin, because then, as now, they do not want peace.

Doesn't mean Arafat was a saint. Sadat & Begin weren't saints either, but Jimmy Carter got them to talk and got the deal done.

Yet the BCE Republicans have occupied the White House more than anyone since WWII (and the creation of Israel) and they have not had ONE success in bringing peace to that clusterfuck of a region.

So clearly, the Democrats have a better track record with foreign policy, and Dean, as usual, is correct.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by FORD
Clinton would have been remembered as a hero if he had succeeded at getting Rabin and Arafat on paper. And the only reason that deal failed to go through was that the Likud murdered Rabin, because then, as now, they do not want peace.

Doesn't mean Arafat was a saint. Sadat & Begin weren't saints either, but Jimmy Carter got them to talk and got the deal done.

Yet the BCE Republicans have occupied the White House more than anyone since WWII (and the creation of Israel) and they have not had ONE success in bringing peace to that clusterfuck of a region.

So clearly, the Democrats have a better track record with foreign policy, and Dean, as usual, is correct.

Points well taken, and it saddens me to realize that i don't actually believe there ever will be peace in that region.
For every step forward they seem to take 2 steps backwards.

But i still think Dean went a bit too far in his speech when he made the statement that the Mid-East 'wouldn't' be in the conflict it is now if a Democrat were in the oval office.
His use of woulda, coulda, shoulda, fell on def ears.

It was just a bit unrealistic in my opinion.
But hey, whatever mobilizes the base support is a good thing i reckon.
One of the biggest problems across this country is the number of people that absolutely don't give a shit what's going on in the world at all.
Get THEM to the polls and we might actually start moving forward ourselves.

[FORD]

Dean's "woulda, shoulda, coulda" was probably a reference to his own candidacy as much anything. He openly said in a Democratic primary debate that he would take an even handed approach to Israel & Palestine, and Joe Lieberman immediately protested like Dean was calling for a new set of ovens to be built at Auschwitz. AIPAC is very much a part of every decision made in the DLC. Ironically enough, Steve Grossman, the former chair of AIPAC, was the head fundraiser for Dean's campaign. But then Grossman's AIPAC was not a Likud puppet agency like it is now, unfortunately.

The Likud doesn't want the Palestinians to have a seat at the table, because (as I posted in another thread) the Likud's "table" goes from the Nile to the Euphrates and they want it ALL.

I guess they don't even know their own history all that well. If all Moses had to do was cross the Nile to get out of Egypt (rather than the Red Sea) they could have spared the special effects budget from that Charlton Heston movie in the 50's.

[BigBadBrian]

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian (D - Dumb Liar)

Look at what BigBlandBallsack learned from his TV!

[Nickdfresh]

Exactly, more unoriginal, redundant bullshit from unfunny right wing puke sites.

I love how the pictures are designed appeal to the unintelligent.

[jcook11]

Originally posted by FORD
Clinton would have been remembered as a hero if he had succeeded at getting Rabin and Arafat on paper. And the only reason that deal failed to go through was that the Likud murdered Rabin, because then, as now, they do not want peace.

Doesn't mean Arafat was a saint. Sadat & Begin weren't saints either, but Jimmy Carter got them to talk and got the deal done.

Yet the BCE Republicans have occupied the White House more than anyone since WWII (and the creation of Israel) and they have not had ONE success in bringing peace to that clusterfuck of a region.

So clearly, the Democrats have a better track record with foreign policy, and Dean, as usual, is correct.

All the BCES' in the world can't "bring" peace or impose peace when you have one party that doesn't want it in the first place.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Exactly, more unoriginal, redundant bullshit from unfunny right wing puke sites.

I love how the pictures are designed appeal to the unintelligent.

Hence BigBlandBung's attraction to material of this sort. He's like a toddler playing with Daddy's keys.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by jcook11
All the BCES' in the world can't "bring" peace or impose peace when you have one party that doesn't want it in the first place.

And yet you neocons keep voting for Republican war mongering profiteers.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Exactly, more unoriginal, redundant bullshit from unfunny right wing puke sites.

I love how the pictures are designed appeal to the unintelligent.

How gay.

Feeling the need to defend one another.

Ahhh.....Idn't dat pwecious!

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
How gay.

Feeling the need to defend one another.

Ahhh.....Idn't dat pwecious!

Here we see BigBlandBlowhard carefully preparing his next post.