Stop the Flow of Dirty Money

[Blaze]

We will eliminate the outsized influence of the oil industry and challenge public officials who take contributions and then put Big Oil's interests above those of the American people. Oil companies spend millions each year to mislead the public, undermine science, undercut clean energy alternatives, and manipulate our democracy to keep America dependent on oil. The Sierra Club will:

Hold accountable any politician who favors the oil industry at the expense of fiscal responsibility and the environment.

Raise public awareness of the direct negative influence that oil contributions have on politics and pocketbooks.

Build the voter support needed to elect environmentally and fiscally responsible candidates.

For decades, the oil industry's hold on politics has seemed inevitable and untouchable. The fossil-fuel industry poured $500 million into anti-climate lobbying and pro-oil candidates during the 2010 midterm elections. This money had enormous influence on climate policy, the price of gas, and the $4 billion in taxpayer subsidies that oil companies collect each year. In a 2012 vote to repeal those subsidies, the U.S. senators who voted in favor of Big Oil had collected five times more in oil and gas industry campaign contributions than those who voted to cut the subsidies.

We will publicize and stigmatize Big Oil's political giving so that accepting campaign contributions and then voting for Big Oil's interests over the interests of the American people becomes an irrecoverable political vulnerability.

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[Nitro Express]

If you think about it, transportation has changed very little during our lifetimes. Sure commercial jets are more fuel efficient but flying actually has gone downhill since I was a kid flying on Boeing 707's.

The same with cars. We have made them lighter and they get better mileage but your average car now isn't that much different than what we were driving around in the 70's.

The one thing that has changed a lot is personal access to computing power and communications.

One trend I have noticed is we continue to get more and more choices on unimportant things but on things that are important we are getting less choice. It's like the people who really control the political machines have figured it out. Give the little people all sorts of entertainment and consumer choices. Give them easy credit to indulge and they will be distracted from what we are doing and in the end, we will own their ass because they will be in debt up to their ears and as long as we can maintain political control, they remain debtors slaves to us.

[Angel]

One trend I have noticed is we continue to get more and more choices on unimportant things but on things that are important we are getting less choice. It's like the people who really control the political machines have figured it out. Give the little people all sorts of entertainment and consumer choices. Give them easy credit to indulge and they will be distracted from what we are doing and in the end, we will own their ass because they will be in debt up to their ears and as long as we can maintain political control, they remain debtors slaves to us.

Nailed it.

[jacksmar]

Back on topic.

Products made from oil:

Ammonia
Antifreeze
Antiseptics
Art supplies
Artificial limbs
Aspirin
Astroturf
Awnings
Bandages
Cleaning products
Candles
Carpets
Caulking
Clothing
Crayons
Creams
Cosmetics
Cutlery
Dentures
Dice
Dyes
Electronics
Film
Fishing line
Floor wax
Foam
Glasses
Glue
Glycerin
Guitar strings
Heart valves
Helmets
Ink
Insulation
Lubricants
Medicine
Nail polish
Nylon
Paint
Paint brushes
Panty hose
Petroleum jelly
Plastics
Records
Refrigerant
Roofing
Shampoo
Shaving cream
Shoes
Shower curtains
Skis
Soap
Solvents
Sports equipment
Tires
Toys
Trash bags
Umbrellas
Upholstery
Vitamin capsules

Walk down any grocery aisle and try to find no trace of oil. Even your "organic food" food stores. You can't do it. Go to a hospital. Same deal.

This commie lib green bullshit is costing taxpayers too much cash. Has from the start. FBHO has stopped coal West Virginia. FBHO tries to deflect the blame. Nobody is buying his muslo-Marxism Obamanure.

Oil is the fuel of the engine for capitalism and freedom. Period.

All responses to the contrary must be made from a non-oil based product.

[BigBadBrian]

All responses to the contrary must be made from a non-oil based product.

All computers are made from predominantly plastic....oil....and metal....requiring oil to make.....and manufactured in plants that run on...oil.

[Satan]

So how is all that shit going to be made when the oil runs out? Considering it's getting pretty close to that, don't you think you mortals better figure that out?

The easy part will be going back to packaging that should have never changed in the first damn place. (i.e jars and bottles being made from glass. The products taste better, and the container recycles easy. And there's plenty of sand to make more glass, even if none of you lazy bastards recycled)

Most of the other products could be made from a natural renewable source, like hemp.

And if you need an effective advertizing gimmick to get people off oil, just blame me like you do for everything else. After all, oil comes from deep beneath the ground, so we must be making it in Hell, right?

[jhale667]

Amazing how the conservatard crowd always goes worst-case-nightmare batsh*t scenario and wants you to think "liberals" want to cease the use of ALL oil, when we should be talking about reducing and eventually eliminating the use of it as our primary fuel source for vehicles.

[jacksmar]

"The easy part will be going back to packaging that should have never changed in the first damn place."
Correct. Sort of. This type of packaging is truly recyclable, not re-used. The catch is the lighter plastic package used currently costs about the same to ship at half the weight. So simply: A 54' trailer full of "plastic goods" shipped at the same price as 1/2 a 54' trailer with "glass goods": same price.

You can't go in to the food supply to fuel vehicles. It's counter productive. Andy Granatelli made car that ran on kerosene and water. The oil lobbies and autoworkers unions shut that car down.

In addition, as tested at Indy, carbon fiber pieces are attached to your car for fuel economy and safety reasons. Your car dissipates K energy easier in an accident leaving you in one piece. Brakes are made of carbon fiber where they used to be made from asbestos. Development has stalled at GM due to the government buyout.

Vehicles took the left protestors to Madison Wisconsin to protest by the bus load. They could have spent their time and effort better protesting in DC and asking for Hempseed Bio fuel and getting legitimate about the issue instead of acting like Jerry Garcia invented the movement.

They left is a victim of their own ideology. They want clean air, clean water, and clean vehicles but aren't willing to build a plant to make it or sustain it.

The United States isn't a national park.

Oil is the fuel of the engine for capitalism and freedom. It's what turns your lights on and what keeps our ships at sea. It cradles your children and attacks disease.

Everything surrounding you at this moment has "touched" a truck.

That's how it is.

[Satan]

Oil is the fuel of the engine for capitalism and freedom. It's what turns your lights on and what keeps our ships at sea. .

Which ships would those be?

The oil tankers shipping it in from foreign countries?
The military ships occupying foreign countries because of oil (yes I know the aircraft carriers are nuclear)?
The ships bringing in all the cheaply manufactured plastic shit from China which shouldn't be coming from there in the first place?

None of that should be happening either. We don't need those ships at sea.

[jacksmar]

Then send back your computer(laptop), throw away your car keys, and move to Syria.

BTW, oil is enabling your response across a wire.

[jacksmar]

You bet your red little ass were occupying foreign countries for oil. Reagan, Bush, Clinton,and G W Bush all got it. Even Obamanure gets it. Your oil in the US is the nation's "oil reserve". And all other oil is ours for the buying. All we have to do is "remind" the oil producing nations that this is the case.

[Satan]

Then send back your computer(laptop), throw away your car keys, and move to Syria.

BTW, oil is enabling your response across a wire.

Not here in Hell..... we use geothermal energy for everything. Other than the pure fire used for tormenting the damned, of course.

[jacksmar]

Not quite sure where HELL is, but in the U.S., geothermal accounts for about .38 percent of all energy use.

Geothermal is VERY expensive due to the cost of finding a drill site. In the oil industry when they miss an oil well it's called a loss. In the geothermal industry a miss is called a taxpayer subsidized write-off. Oil companies get subsidies too, right?
Wrong.
They get: a domestic manufacturing tax deduction, a percentage depletion allowance, intangible drilling costs (not available at the same price to all oil companies), and a foreign tax credit.

Do you know what oil company does get a U.S. subsidy? Petrobas. Made in Brazil.

Get serious on this issue. Oil companies threw around about 17 million in the 2008 election. You know where that puts them? 19th. You know who was first? Your friendly neighborhood lawyer. 126 million.

Even if you stopped these "subsidies", the oil companies money would run the government for about two hours.

That's how it is.

[Satan]

Geothermal is cheap here. Because we're at the source. No drilling necessary.

[Angel]

You bet your red little ass were occupying foreign countries for oil. Reagan, Bush, Clinton,and G W Bush all got it. Even Obamanure gets it. Your oil in the US is the nation's "oil reserve". And all other oil is ours for the buying. All we have to do is "remind" the oil producing nations that this is the case.

Do you even know where most of your oil is imported from??? I can tell you this much, you've never invaded them...although you came close in 1812.