The Army Boxing Thread

[TFM_Dale]

Here's a link to a GIF file of the knockout (that's too large to upload to photobucket or Tumblr, but) ...holy crap!

http://twitpic.com/bkdht1/full

AHA...embed code works!

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Any Paq fans have any arguments left that Paq-fraud can even lace Floyd's boots?

[binnie]

Good fight. JMM is my favourite active fighter, and I'm glad it ended well for him (for me, he won the 1st and 3rd fights).

The difference this time was power. Last time out, JMM came up from 135 to 147 and his body wasn't that of a 147 fighter. This time it was, and his punches had more on them. If you watch the fight, watch his body work - he was hurting Pacman every time he hit him, and it slowed Pacman down a little. The knockdown in the third was superb, but the KO was just a masterclass of counterpunching - it reminded me of Hatton-Mayweather the way Pacman was lured into running onto the shot.

Up until then it had been like all of their fights: close!. JMM picking his shots and landing the cleaner work, Pacman darting and weaving and throwing those craxy combinations (many of which miss). Pacman was in it throughout - Lederman had him ahead after 5 (which is utter bullshit) and I'm not sure I buy the lines about him 'fading'. I think the difference is that in Bradley and JMM he's facing guys who know about timing, know about defence, and aren't there to be hit. Pacman's performances against Cotto and Margaritto were astonishing, but those guys have no defence and (in hindsight) were tailor made for his relentlessly fast fists.

As JMM has always shown, put him in with a boxer and he struggles. Still a greater fighter, but not an invincible one.

JMM-Bradley next? That's a great fight. Guess it all depends on who Floyd wants on May 5th.

[binnie]

Dudes, if you want to see another spectacular KO check out Mikkel Kessler beating Brian Magee last night. He put him down 3 times with body shots, and they made me wince!

[binnie]

Any Paq fans have any arguments left that Paq-fraud can even lace Floyd's boots?

Styles make fights, and Floyd's style has always been - and will always be - wrong for Pacman. I'd say this, however: since Floyd has begun to age Pacman has his best ever chance of beating him. Floyd doesn't use his feat any more, and if he provides a static target for Manny then Pacman will have some success against him. That being said, I think Floyd's straight right would be landing at will all night, I think that he would tie Pacman up and fight close (not many think that, put Pacman does not like to fight inside) and I also think that Floyd's body work would be Pacman's undoing.

If Arum thinks Pacman is near the end, then the Floyd fight might actually happen........

[POJO_Risin]

Styles make fights, and Floyd's style has always been - and will always be - wrong for Pacman. I'd say this, however: since Floyd has begun to age Pacman has his best ever chance of beating him. Floyd doesn't use his feat any more, and if he provides a static target for Manny then Pacman will have some success against him. That being said, I think Floyd's straight right would be landing at will all night, I think that he would tie Pacman up and fight close (not many think that, put Pacman does not like to fight inside) and I also think that Floyd's body work would be Pacman's undoing.

If Arum thinks Pacman is near the end, then the Floyd fight might actually happen........

I, for one, could give a shit less about either. Both r cunt-addled douchebags, and I won't spend a cent watching either one of those old fucksticks

[binnie]

They're certainly both nearing the end - and I think everyone would have liked the fight to have happened 4 years ago - but it is still a fight people would like to see: aggressive fighter vs defensive fighter; skill vs power and so on, it has plenty of things to like.

Can't imagine either guy is particularly pleasant, but then again I can't imagine being 'nice' is an attribute which helps if you're a boxer

[POJO_Risin]

No interested in the games boxers play anymore...and this fight should have been forced to happen 5 or 6!years ago...but it wasn't because nobody cares to fix how the governing bodies work...

Honestly, I'm jus sick of "professionals." There are guys that are strategic douchebags (Ali), and guys that r just douchbags...

[binnie]

Have to agree with the governing bodies.

If we could have one governing bodies, we would essentially take promoters out of the equation.......

[vandeleur]

Have to agree with the governing bodies.

If we could have one governing bodies, we would essentially take promoters out of the equation.......

Between governing bodies and greedy promoters they at times seem hell bent on killing off the sport .

[binnie]

It's like anything, really. If you look hard enough you see good fights.

This weekend I saw Mikkel Kessler - Brian Maggee (yeah, I knew who was going to win; but Maggee is a top nothc fighter whose been knocking on the door of a world title for years)

JMM - Pacman IV (who can complain about that? So good people are laready hankering after no.5)

James Degale - Zuninga (very entertaining fight and some great skills shown).

And Trout-Cotto the week before was sensational

It would undoubtedly be better if there weren't so many belts etc, but great fights are still happening. Froch-Kessler II is bound to happen next year, for instance....

[binnie]

Can't imagine that this will stay up for long, but Pac-JMM IV is on youtube here:

http://youtu.be/jeAe39QOwcE

[vandeleur]

Froch Kessler .. Is setting up nicely now .

[binnie]

Indeed - I expect we'll see it in spring next year.

[vandeleur]

Watched the kessler fight again this morning.
Although I dont think magee was great kessler destroyed him ,those body shots were killers.

But I must say kesslers tat is shite , it looks like he rolled on his side in indian ink. Tho i wouldnt say that to his face

[binnie]

Magee is a tough customer who's been mixing it with the best, not an easy match for anyone.

But those body shots who brutal.