The Army Boxing Thread

[binnie]

I assume the plan is: get Alvarez out of the way; take an easier fight in January/ February; have another 'big' fight on May 5th.

[vandeleur]

"Big " fight ... Who tho at some point does he run out of credible opponents ?

[binnie]

"Big " fight ... Who tho at some point does he run out of credible opponents ?

It is a problem.

I think of it like this: IF Floyd-Pac can happen, it will happen on May 5th next year or not at all. This is assuming Pacman beats Rios, of course.

[vandeleur]

At this point paq bring nothing to the table except a name really .

[binnie]

Nah: don't write-off Pacman too soon.

JMM may FINALLY have gotten his vindication, but the fight was even up to the KO. There's still a bit of life in Pacman.....

[vandeleur]

Not righting him off , was thinking more from the haggling contract point of view .
The whole arum circus always wanted parity now there is no chance of that from a contract /purse/negotiation point of view it's mayweathers game .

[binnie]

Not righting him off , was thinking more from the haggling contract point of view .
The whole arum circus always wanted parity now there is no chance of that from a contract /purse/negotiation point of view it's mayweathers game .

True.

However, the sad fact when it comes to contracts is that records don't mean much. PPV buys do. And Mayweather-Guerrero didn't do amazing numbers, where one suspects Pacman-Rios will (largely because it's being held abroad). Arum is the spanner in the works, but he may sacrifice Pacman to get one last gigantic payday out of him.....

[jhale667]

True.

However, the sad fact when it comes to contracts is that records don't mean much. PPV buys do. And Mayweather-Guerrero didn't do amazing numbers, where one suspects Pacman-Rios will (largely because it's being held abroad). Arum is the spanner in the works, but he may sacrifice Pacman to get one last gigantic payday out of him.....

I'm not sure Pac is even ready for Rios... dude can bang, is nuts, and WILL NOT QUIT...Pac hasn't had that kind of fire for a long time. He's been mentally beaten in his last two fights (getting knocked the F out not withstanding) because his heart's not in it anymore...


Also agree Alvarez will have a substantial post weigh-in size advantage. But you pegged the reason why I don't think it will do him much good: He's got some speed, not to Floyd's level mind you - but he doesn't throw a lot. Floyd will outwork him... I also look for Canelo to try that stupid head-bob thing, and get embarrassed when Floyd times it and bitch-slaps him a couple of times...

[binnie]

Alvarez is hinting that he's going to work the body. Could be a bluff (why give the gameplan away?) That's what Cotto did, and they're similar fighters (but Alvarez is bigger).

Not sure I see how he gets close enough - Floyd's legs looked pretty good to me against Guerrero (I thought they'd gone around the time of the Mosely fight - because he was fighting in the pocket more - but it looks now like he was just adopting a more fan friendly style).

[binnie]

I'm not sure Pac is even ready for Rios... dude can bang, is nuts, and WILL NOT QUIT...Pac hasn't had that kind of fire for a long time. He's been mentally beaten in his last two fights (getting knocked the F out not withstanding) because his heart's not in it anymore...

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I know what you mean, and I thought the same thing. However, they've picked Rios because a) he's much smaller than Pacman; b) yes, he's a warrior, but he's damn easy to hit - and it will give Pacman confidence. Pacman needs a guy who can't move so he can let those whirlwhind combos go.

[binnie]

Chad Dawson got KO'd by Adonis Stevenson in one round on Saturday night.

Time to put a fork in Chad I'm afraid. Brilliant skills, but mental issues - the masterclass he put on against Thomas Adamek will stay with me for a long time.....

[vandeleur]

Think Stevenson only dropped three punches

[jhale667]

That was a great shot...Dawson got up, to his credit - but was seriously out on his feet, and the ref could tell.

[vandeleur]

Do you think Stevenson was happy

[jhale667]

Just a tad, maybe...


This is interesting... Paulie Malignaggi says Floyd will not only beat Canelo, but will RUIN him...