The Army Boxing Thread

[lesfunk]

rather impressively too I might add.

[binnie]

Yep. Bhop becomes the oldest man to win a title ever. Dropping to do push ups before the 7th was funny.

Bhop takes on Chad Dawson next (who beat Diaconnu last night): not sure how wins that one, but we'll see.

[jhale667]

Yeah, huge props to BHop...that was an amazing performance. The bit with doing the pushups was classic. He just completely owned Pascal the vast majority of the night. I love when Max Kellerman asked Hopkins "Were you hurt in the 3rd round, and if so, how bad?" and Hopkins' instant response - "Man, I was hurt when I started training for this 9 weeks ago."
The Dawson fight will be interesting indeed, can't really call that one either...

[sonrisa salvaje]

Good call guys. Props to Binnie and DB for calling the BHop victory. I really love Bernard's new fighting style. Pascal was really cool about it and very gracious. I was glad to see that. It tripped me out when Bernard threw out Bute as a possible future opponent. I also cracked up, like you guys, on the pushups. At that point in time you just knew Bernard owned him. I also crack up everytime Bernard does his ring walk and that guy sings "My Way" with the lyrics about Bernard. That is not only hilarious but is so damn cool as well. Old man my ass.

[Dave's Bitch]

Great job Bhop,made me smile.He had it won before he stepped in the ring,props to pascal,classy guy.A thought on Roy jones Jr though,you know for a fact he will not call it quits now.His skills have dropped to the point where he can not defend himself in a 10 round fight,and it has been a good 6 years since he has been "the man".Do you think ANY boxing commission will give him a license to fight?.If he does not quit soon he will end up a cautionary tail for boxers as he will be at serious risk of a bad injury.He is basicaly at the stage where he is used to add a name to other boxers records.Thoughts?

[Dave's Bitch]

An interesting talking point

when a fighter is badly hurt,On who does the responsability to end the fight fall,The ref or the Trainer?

[sonrisa salvaje]

Great job Bhop,made me smile.He had it won before he stepped in the ring,props to pascal,classy guy.A thought on Roy jones Jr though,you know for a fact he will not call it quits now.His skills have dropped to the point where he can not defend himself in a 10 round fight,and it has been a good 6 years since he has been "the man".Do you think ANY boxing commission will give him a license to fight?.If he does not quit soon he will end up a cautionary tail for boxers as he will be at serious risk of a bad injury.He is basicaly at the stage where he is used to add a name to other boxers records.Thoughts?

I agree that he is a name that fighters can put on their resume at this point but i would question the value of getting a win over Roy these days. As for him getting a license, i think he will continue to get licensed simply because others continued to be licensed that don't need to be in the ring. Not saying it's right but examples are: Evander Holyfield, Julio Cesar Chavez Sr., Hector Camacho, Thomas Hearns.

[sonrisa salvaje]

An interesting talking point

when a fighter is badly hurt,On who does the responsability to end the fight fall,The ref or the Trainer?

I would put most of the responsibility on the referree because he is supposed to be impartial and doesn't have a stake in who wins. The corner should have equal responsibility but we know that certain corners are prideful and don't want to throw in the towel. AKA - their want to win overcomes their concern for their fighter which is really a sad thing.

[jhale667]

I for one, would love to see Roy retire before he gets seriously hurt. Sadly, he's now a shadow of his former self. I think it was Harold Letterman that was comparing him to BHop, saying "The reason why Jones dominated Hopkins so badly in their original fight was Roy had all these natural gifts Bernard didn't, and BHop had so much more yet to learn in '93. And BECAUSE Roy was so gifted, he never HAD to be tough and stand there and trade with guys. Fast forward to today, Roy's physical gifts have deteriorated to the point where he CAN be hit now, and he never had to learn all the defensive tricks BHop did, which is how Bernard managed to dominate Roy as completely in their last fight as Roy had BHop in their original fight."


The Hopkins-Dawson fight is really intriguing now...

[binnie]

Bhop would always have come up way short of a prime Roy. Shit, nost guys would.

[binnie]

An interesting talking point

when a fighter is badly hurt,On who does the responsability to end the fight fall,The ref or the Trainer?

Referee. The trainer wants his guy to win, and will be caught up in the moment. The Ref should be unbiased.

[binnie]

The Hopkins-Dawson fight is really intriguing now...

It could be a snooze fest. I'm curious to know WHY BHop wants it - Dawson is a slick boxer with fast hands who deosn't come forward: precisely the kind of guy Bhop has avoided since Taylor. Bhop hasobviously seen something he can use there, and I'm guessing he saw it in the first Glen Johnson fight, when Chad looked shell-shocked.


Chad has the abilities - and size - to be the man at 175 (i don't think many of the 168lbs can match him on skill, either.) But he looked hesitant and ill at ease on saturday.

[hideyoursheep]

Mayweather-Pacquiao has to happen (he said again, as if a mantra)...

That's the problem with boxing! Still waiting on a fight that should have happened over 2 years ago! Horseshit!

Start watching MMA...thank you.

[jhale667]

It could be a snooze fest. I'm curious to know WHY BHop wants it - Dawson is a slick boxer with fast hands who deosn't come forward: precisely the kind of guy Bhop has avoided since Taylor. Bhop hasobviously seen something he can use there, and I'm guessing he saw it in the first Glen Johnson fight, when Chad looked shell-shocked.


Chad has the abilities - and size - to be the man at 175 (i don't think many of the 168lbs can match him on skill, either.) But he looked hesitant and ill at ease on saturday.

Agree, he looked hesitant - or bored - Saturday night. He's got way fast hands but didn't really use them completely to his advantage against a clearly slower opponent. I think you're right - if BHop WANTS that fight, he's seen something he thinks will give him the edge over yet another younger-stronger-faster fighter...

[Dave's Bitch]

Start watching MMA...thank you.

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