THE Ohio State University Chatter

[hideyoursheep]

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[TFM_Dale]

Hated losing to App state but it was one Hell of a game to watch.

[TFM_Dale]

SI isn't exactly a credible sports news source IMO...they only want to sell magazines...otherwise they wouldn't have an annual bikini issue.

They either do a hit piece, or a hype piece on select individuals...if they were a legitimate "investigative reporting" mag, they would have never published a story about how Tony Mandarich was going to be the greatest lineman ever, or that Jeff George would be the next Joe Montana, etc,...

Way to much coming out from many sources for this to be nothing. I still say the Suckeyes are toast when this is all said and done, and with all the thugs able to join the supplemental draft and skip this next season we will be seeing a Michigan win this year, the perfect cherry on top to the end of the sweater vest era.

[chefcraig]

Way to much coming out from many sources for this to be nothing. I still say the Suckeyes are toast when this is all said and done, and with all the thugs able to join the supplemental draft and skip this next season we will be seeing a Michigan win this year, the perfect cherry on top to the end of the sweater vest era.

I hardly agree with that last bit Dale. Not so much for the implied inevitability of a win, but for the reasoning behind it. It's like saying that Michigan will beat OS not because Michigan has improved, yet because OS is no longer quite so good. It's a somewhat defeatist argument, one stating more than anything that once the game is over, OS lost it, rather than Michigan won it.

Consider my being a Dolphins fan. We haven't sniffed the post-season in over a decade, despite having Jimmy Johnson, the creep Saban and Bill Parcells in charge. In that time, were the other teams better and more prepared than we were? Absolutely! You can not begrudge another team their success no matter how it is achieved, as it is simply poor sportsmanship. What Miami needs to do in the face of losing is to man-up, take accountability for the team's actions, learn from it's failures and move forward. To do otherwise gives far too much credit to the other team(s) in a backwardly, self-serving way.

Then again, Miami isn't really all that interested in winning games. We only appear to be competitive enough to keep the tickets selling and the merchandise moving, like several NFL teams. In that regard it's a business, not a sport...much like the NCAA. Look at the Marlins. The argument could be made that they make more money by losing. Paradoxical as it sounds, the team will be moving into a brand new stadium next season. For a great article about the ugly truth behind this little deal, check out Six lies about the Marlins stadium .

So I guess it all comes down to what the "management" of a team wants to accomplish. Just remember that accomplishment doesn't always equate to winning. After all, at this very moment the Knicks are seriously thinking about bringing back Isiah Thomas.

[TFM_Dale]

I haven't hid my thoughts on what Rich Rod has done to the team and how his ignoring the defense and especially the secondary has killed the Wolverines. It does suck that it takes this kind of scandal to even things back up again so fast but my point was with this happening Michigan will be rolling over the Suckeyes again sooner rather then later. I have no problem admitting that Ohio state has been the better team lately, it is obvious, doesn't mean I'll ever like it if it happens again and the fact that sweater vest and his staff were involved in cheating the rules does make the losing streak a little less painful, they had to cheat to build the teams that turned things around. Cosmic justice if you ask me considering we had to suffer through Bitch Rods dismantling of the team.

[hideyoursheep]

I hardly agree with that last bit Dale. Not so much for the implied inevitability of a win, but for the reasoning behind it. It's like saying that Michigan will beat OS not because Michigan has improved, yet because OS is no longer quite so good. It's a somewhat defeatist argument, one stating more than anything that once the game is over, OS lost it, rather than Michigan won it.

It's hard to explain to you, Craig, the absolute animosity tOSU fans/ MiSHITgan fans have towards each other...sometimes you have to suspend logic, as our friend Dale has done. The Buckeyes will be just fine this year without TP, trust me...Meatchicken doesn't stand a chance, sanctions or not. The success each school has against the other can make or break a season, and a coach....just ask John Cooper, LLLLLoyd Carr, and DickRod.

I still say the Suckeyes are toast when this is all said and done, and with all the thugs able to join the supplemental draft and skip this next season we will be seeing a Michigan win this year, the perfect cherry on top to the end of the sweater vest era.

Let's make a bet then....I'll wager if the Buckeyes lose, I change my avatar to that shitty corn and blue for 1 month....if they win, you change yours to tOSU logo.....deal?


You really need to start a meatchicken chatter thread, Dale...

[chefcraig]

At least you guys have college teams to root for. I went to a community college that didn't even have a tennis team at the time.

[hideyoursheep]

At least you guys have college teams to root for. I went to a community college that didn't even have a tennis team at the time.

You'd be suprised at how many other Ohio colleges have student/fans following tOSU that are apathetic toward their own teams....


My younger sister is an tOSU alumnus...her idiot husband is a Michigan fan...why? I have no Idea. Don't think I don't argue with that prick, family or not!

Wait...you live in Fla and don't have a college team to root for?

Shit, man...you could just pick one! Roll with the Bulls this year!

[chefcraig]

It just strikes me as phony and front running to root for a college team you are not an alumnus of. The whole "We're #1!" piling on is truly comical around here. Every year, the day after the Super Bowl you see people with the winning team's stickers, plates and flags all over their cars. When you ask them if they are from the winning city, they usually say "No, never been there." And the same applies to other sports as well.

[TFM_Dale]

It's hard to explain to you, Craig, the absolute animosity tOSU fans/ MiSHITgan fans have towards each other...sometimes you have to suspend logic, as our friend Dale has done. The Buckeyes will be just fine this year without TP, trust me...Meatchicken doesn't stand a chance, sanctions or not. The success each school has against the other can make or break a season, and a coach....just ask John Cooper, LLLLLoyd Carr, and DickRod.


Let's make a bet then....I'll wager if the Buckeyes lose, I change my avatar to that shitty corn and blue for 1 month....if they win, you change yours to tOSU logo.....deal?


You really need to start a meatchicken chatter thread, Dale...

You got a bet.

I usually do 99% of my posting in the NFL/Fantasy Football thread but we know how that is going

[TFM_Dale]

http://www.freep.com/article/2011060...xt%7CFRONTPAGE Pryor is bailing, won't take long for his idiot buddies to follow. Is it wrong I am hoping for a Theismann moment for the fuck head?

[POJO_Risin]

Wow...I could really jump into this shit storm...but what's the point.

1. Jim Tressel should have been fired the second that he was caught lying. I said it then, and I said it now. Do I think he didn't say anything to "help the players." Yes. Do I think he did it to win? Yes. Either way, he lied, and in this era...you can't lie about minuscule bullshit like tattoo-gate.

2. Terrelle Pryor is a piece of shit, but he's a piece of shit that many of us wanted to come to Buckeye nation for many reasons...#1 ranked...Michigan wanted...name the reason. But no fucking way can you blame that bum for Tressel getting canned. Tressel made the choice, and got what...unfortunately...he deserved.

3. On Deeper allegations: Well...the car-gate was a fallacy. The SI article, written by a "pulitzer prize" author George Dohrman spoke about several potential recruiting violations...such as the cars and the "other players that traded shit for tatoos"...that are already proving to be false. The Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles have found no laws were broken by any of the dealerships, and the investigation showed that the dealership didn't receive any memorabilia in exchange for cars. Ohio State stopped their own investigation of the cars...which could mean that the NCAA is likely satisfied with regards to the cars. An anonymous source also stated that nine other players received extra benefits. The lawyer for all nine players has collected much of the supposed memorabilia from those players. It seems as though this door might be closing as well. Much was made about Pryor's relationship with a "booster," Dennis Talbott, who supposedly gave Pryor thousands of dollars. Pryor won't be talking to the NCAA any time soon. Talbott has never been contacted by the NCAA.

I'm not saying that the NCAA won't come down on the Buckeyes...but so far...there's not a lot of meat other than the initial tatoo-gate, followed the the lie from Tressel.

Now ARE there deeper allegations? I'm sure if the NCAA dove into this investigation, they'd find shit. Hell, if they dove into Michigan...what would they find? If they dove into fucking Utah, or BumFuckUniversity...what would they find?

I'm not about to start weighing Tressel vs. that fucking carpetbagger RichRod...the past ten years of Buckeye football has been some of the best years in the universities history...because of Tressel. It's not like he outrecruited Cooper...cheating or not...but he sure as shit coached better than Cooper.

4. Recruiting...this is the big issue. I'm sure Michifuck and Michishit St. will whore Ohio this year...and if the NCAA strips tOSU of scholarships...in years to come...but inevitably...tOSU will be back again...

5. As per this year's tOSU vs. Michigan game...who fucking knows...tOSU will find out before the game what the fuck is going to happen, and it could spin the season into the shitter. It fucking blows, but what can you do...

[POJO_Risin]

hehehehehe...

[POJO_Risin]

Once again, the fucking media shitstorm to damn tOSU has proven to be utter fucking bullshit...

[POJO_Risin]

Once again, the fucking media shitstorm to damn tOSU has proven to be utter fucking bullshit...