"Talk of the devil" VS "Live evil"

[Mr Badguy]

Which a;bum of live Sabbath do you prefer?

Dio murdering Ozzy songs or Ozzy`s Van Halen style back up band`s updated versions of Sabbath classics?

I love both albums, but I`m going for "Talk of the devil".

It was the first Ozzy album that I ever got and the first time I heard a lot of the Sabbath songs on there.

Even now I still think some of the versions on there are better than the Sabbath originals as they really sound electric live.

It sounds like an amazing, atmospheric gig also, with Ozzy at his best.

[Figs]

I used to have both (mine was called Speak of the Devil - maybe that's the US version) on vinyl. I'd go with Ozzy's, especially Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. I liked Live Evil too, I happened to see that tour.

[Anonymous]

It's tuff to say... although Ozzy is indisputably a grate vocalist and THE Black Sabbath frontman, I happen to like Dio's version of Sabbath best. 'Heaven and Hell' and 'Dehumanizer' are my favorite Sabbath albums. Of course, it's very different when Dio is singing Ozzy's songs.

So, in conclusion to a poorly formed analysis, I'll have to say that both albums are grate. Get them both along with 'Sabbath Bloody Sabbath' a very high-quality bootleg released by Kiss the Stone Records - same company that released Pantera's 'Live Beyond Driven' - featuring Dio on vocals, and the 'Reunion' album, where Ozzy delivers.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Mezro]

I will go with "Speak of the Devil" because of how wasted Ozzy was. That thing still makes me laugh when I listen to it. But...

...I love "Live Evil" and enjoy the shit out of Dio Sabbath. But Dio wasn't wasted so I still have to give the nudge to Ozzy.

Mezro...but Brad Gillis is a chunk of shit...go to his site and check out the shitty animation...stroke that neck Bad Brad...

[bueno bob]

Brad Gillis wrecked "Speak of the Devil" for me. Sabbath without Tony Iommi is NOT Sabbath, and therefore should not be played by anybody. I am very particular about that. Nobody can play a Sabbath song the way Tony Iommi can, not Randy Rhoads, not Jake E Lee, not Zakk Wylde - NOBODY.

Ozzy sounded great, and "Speak of the Devil" was a funny ass album to listen to him banter on - and of course hearing "Never Say Die" live was a hoot.

The downside to "Live Evil" is the muddled production job. Dio brought a very dark, almost gothic vocal presentation to Ozzy's solo stuff...gothic's not really the right word, but it sounded much more evil than Ozzy ever sang it; but even that fit, considering the image that Ronnie was bringing to Sabbath anyway. The other downslide is that it doesn't have enough material on it, and a lot of the Tony Iommi soloing, while MUCH fun to listen to, just eats up tape space and isn't really necessary.

At the end of it, "Speak of the Devil" is just too paper thin for my tastes and listening to Brad Gillis Van Halen-ize the old Sabbath sound is a real killjoy.

My vote is for "Live Evil".

[Seshmeister]

I liked Brad Gillis on Speak of the Devil.

I don't like Dio so this is a no brainer for me.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
I liked Brad Gillis on Speak of the Devil.

I don't like Dio so this is a no brainer for me.

Compared to Iommi??

OK...

[Seshmeister]

Well Dio is like Hagar to me in that his voice irritates me and distracts me from the music but actually in any case I find Iommi tedious to be honest.

I give him credit for starting it all but that doesn't mean I have to listen to him.

Brad Gillis reworking the solos was a welcome breath of fresh air.

I'll just stand back now while you all brand me as a heretic...

Cheers!

[Bill Lumbergh]

Speak of the Devil, hands down. I am a HUGE Iommi fan, but I hardly find myself EVER listening to that album. Oh and the only Black Sabbath I'll ever acknowledge is the Ozzy version(though I like Dio). Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules are Iommi solo projects in my mind........

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
Speak of the Devil, hands down. I am a HUGE Iommi fan, but I hardly find myself EVER listening to that album. Oh and the only Black Sabbath I'll ever acknowledge is the Ozzy version(though I like Dio). Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules are Iommi solo projects in my mind........

Well, shit, everything post Never Say Die is a solo Iommi project, virtually...if you wanna get right down to the nitty gritty of it, anyway. But Black Sabbath/Tony Iommi...to me, the names are synonomous with each other, both mean the same thing so far as I'm concerned.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
...I'll just stand back now while you all brand me as a heretic...

Cheers!

HERETIC!!



It's cool, Iommi to me is God...same way as Eddie still is to some people...

[rustoffa]

Iommi is the man as far as Sabbath goes, but Gillis is a pretty good guitar player.

I thought he did a pretty good job on Speak Of The Devil considering the shoes he was trying to fill.

The cover of "Atomic Punk" he and Fee Waybill did is a good listen.

[Hardrock69]

I hated Gillis's style. Gary Moore was going to do those gigs, but he accidentally slammed his hand in a car door on the way to the airport, and that ruined it.

I personally do not like listening to Dio sing stuff Ozzy recorded originally. I like to listen to old Sabbath songs with the original lineup.

But of course Heaven & Hell, Mob Rules and Dehumanizer are classic metal albums (I mean ULTIMATE CLASSIC metal albums), and so I prefer to hear Dio singing that stuff.



Brad Gillis and FEE WAYBILL doing ATOMIC PUNK? Where on earth did this occur?

And what the heck has Fee been up to lately? He did some kind of Tubes tour in the late 90s playing clubs and theaters, but that is all I know.....

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Brad Gillis and FEE WAYBILL doing ATOMIC PUNK? Where on earth did this occur?

One of those shitty tribute albums that has-been's throw together for any other band over the weekends...what was it, the Little Guitars tribute? I think...

[FORD]

Gotta agree with Lord Vader on this one. Gillis doesn't come close to matching Iommi on the Sabbath classics. Of course, I remember hearing at the time that he had a whole three days to learn the songs (excepting Paranoid, Iron Man, and Children of the Grave, which they had been playing on tour already) and that what Gillis was actually playing was Sarzo's bass lines - on his guitar.

Also, in terms of production, Live Evil was just a better sounding record, though let's face facts.... Dio's vocal was almost completely overdubbed. I've heard Sabbath boots from that tour and he didn't really sound like that.