"Talk of the devil" VS "Live evil"

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by FORD
Dio's vocal was almost completely overdubbed. I've heard Sabbath boots from that tour and he didn't really sound like that.

Exactly why Ronnie was pissed about and what led to the split - Geezer and Tony accused Ronnie of turning up the mix in the dead of night on his vocals, which Ronnie absolutely denied...Tony later on admitted it was a mistake on his part to do so, but as to how Ron's vocals got that way...ghost in the machine, maybe...

[Panamark]

In any Ozzy v DIO contest, Ozzy singing Ozzy Sabbath wins..

Speak of the Devil !! (As its known in Oz)

[Golden AWe]

Yup, it's OZZY over DIO any day...

This was not the issue here, but DAHM that "Past Lives"-double cd is amazing...superb stuff...Sabbath at it's best. The alternate lyrics for "Killing yourself to live" are quite funny too...

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
Yup, it's OZZY over DIO any day...

This was not the issue here, but DAHM that "Past Lives"-double cd is amazing...superb stuff...Sabbath at it's best. The alternate lyrics for "Killing yourself to live" are quite funny too...

The absolute live Sabbath peak, without a doubt.

The second disc was actually an NEMS pressing from 1980 (Live at Last); I was really happy to actually have an official version of it at long last.

"Come on, baby, gonna fuck all night..."

Classic Ozzy indeed

[Terry]

Gillis did a decent enough job considering the circumstances of how he landed the gig, and how many songs he had to learn in a relatively short amount of time.

Got a full-length Ozzy 1982 live DVD as part of a trade (think it was originally aired on MTV), and Gillis displayed a fair representation of Randys licks. Always too much vibrato bar wanking in his style when he was left to his own devices.

Speak of the Devil will always have an edge over Live Evil in terms of the classic Sabbath tunes because they are just unsuited for Dio to sing; anyone other than Ozzy and they just don't sound right.

Besides, after the classic version, my next fave Sab lineup was the Born Again one. Saw them in 1983. Geezer Butler's bass was so loud it was literally caving my chest in.

First I'd heard of Gary Moore being in line before Gillis to replace Randy on the tour. Probably wouldn't have been a good fit, though.

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by bueno bob
The absolute live Sabbath peak, without a doubt.

The second disc was actually an NEMS pressing from 1980 (Live at Last); I was really happy to actually have an official version of it at long last.

"Come on, baby, gonna fuck all night..."

Classic Ozzy indeed

yup...and which song was it, that I don't remember, but I laugh every time I hear "ARE YOU HIGH? ARE YOU HIGH? SO AM I!!!"

:D

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
yup...and which song was it, that I don't remember, but I laugh every time I hear "ARE YOU HIGH? ARE YOU HIGH? SO AM I!!!"

:D

Oh man, I'd have to bust it out and listen...I think it's right before the start of Hole in the Sky, I'd have to double check that.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Oh man, I'd have to bust it out and listen...I think it's right before the start of Hole in the Sky, I'd have to double check that.

Yup.

[Golden AWe]

I'd like to see that OZZY on the weekly TV...not the homersimpson we see at "The Osbournes"

[Mr Badguy]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Brad Gillis reworking the solos was a welcome breath of fresh air.

I`m with you on this one, Sesh.

I think he interpreted the Sabbath stuff a lot better than Zakk, who just squeals the fuck over everything he ever plays.

And you have to remember that at that time, the whammy bar and tapping style of playing was in vogue for any metal guitarist.

Also the Sabbath stuff probably wasn`t regarded as highly as it is now and Gillis just played it in his own style, rather than the "tribute band" style reproductions you get today.

[bueno bob]

There's a HELL of a lot of OUTSTANDING doom metal bands out there today that shouldn't be forgotten about...

Cathedral, Electric Wizard, High On Fire, sHeavy, Candlemass, Debris Inc., and all the older school 80s guys...Sleep, Saint Vitus, Count Raven, Trouble...

All of them kiss the ground the Iommi walks on...back in the early 80s, the sound wasn't so unadaptable to interpretation like it is now - but with the influx of so many great doom metal bands that have sung the praises of Tony Iommi and Sabbath, in today's world...it's very hard to do any sort of different interpretation of Sabbath and be taken legitimately.

[DrMaddVibe]

I don't like either live recording.

I echo sentiments of Sabbath w/ Dio. I think their strongest material is with him on "Heaven & Hell" and "Mob Rules". Saw them on these tours and loved every minute of it.

Saw Ozzy on a couple of tours with Randy and it rocked too. Ozzy had fun with him.

Saw Sabbath all together again and it wasn't the same. The sound was good, but the stage sucked and it looked like they were just going through the motions...I dunno...bad night maybe.

I'd rather listen to Inferno: Last in Live hands down!

[ALMOSTsaved]

I actually love "Speak Of The Devil." Ironically it was my introduction to Black Sabbath even though it was solo Ozzy. After hearing the album, I HAD to have the Sabbath versions. I was only twelve years old at the time.

[STF]

Live evil

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
I hated Gillis's style. Gary Moore was going to do those gigs, but he accidentally slammed his hand in a car door on the way to the airport, and that ruined it.

That's not the story as Ozzy or I remember it. Then again we were probably both drunk...

At the time I read that Ozzy said that he called Moore after Randy died and GM told him in no uncertain terms to fuck off. Ozzy apparently was really pissed off and was quoted as saying Moore had a face like a welders bench.

That said Ozzy did then appear on a Gary Moore album singing a song called Led Clones taking the piss out of Kingdom Come so maybe it was all exagerated by the media.

Cheers!