"Rainbow Rising"vs"Heaven and hell"vs"Holy diver"

[Bootyac]

are you referring to the Mob Rules album?

Wow..I dont think I have heard that album in the whole in at least 20 years

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Bootyac
are you referring to the Mob Rules album?

Wow..I dont think I have heard that album in the whole in at least 20 years

Yup, whole album. I STILL play the shit out of that thing, never get tired of listening to it. I prefer it heads and tails over Heaven and Hell, I feel that strongly about it.

Definitely a pinnacle moment in the careers of Ronnie, Tony and Geezer.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Originally posted by Mr Badguy
Alright.

Where are the flaws on "Heaven and hell" then?

The flaw on "Heaven And Hell" is "Wishing Well".

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
The flaw on "Heaven And Hell" is "Wishing Well".

I don't know, I like it.

Granted, not the strongest song on the album, but overall I don't have a problem with it.

[Bootyac]

Ok...Ill have to get that album again

[Bootyac]

BTW Bob..did you listen to that Dio/Malmsteen song?

[Mr Badguy]

I know what you mean about the "Reunion" album, Bob.

"War pigs": Ozzy is so out of tune I can`t force myself to listen to it again.

"Sabbath bloody sabbath": Why include a song that you can`t sing anymore?

That was in `98, Ozzy`s voice must be shot to bits now.

[Mr Badguy]

He couldn`t even hit the high notes on "Symptom of the universe" from "Talk of the Devil" and that was in `82!

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by Mr Badguy
I know what you mean about the "Reunion" album, Bob.

"War pigs": Ozzy is so out of tune I can`t force myself to listen to it again.

"Sabbath bloody sabbath": Why include a song that you can`t sing anymore?

That was in `98, Ozzy`s voice must be shot to bits now.

Trust me...you don't even want to know...it's flat out embarassing and I had more fun seeing them in '95 with Tony Martin.

Protoolzzy Osbourne isn't worth anything live...I've actually SEEN Tony wince with pain while he's on stage and Ozzy's voice is breaking all over the place...

There's also something to be said about a performer dependent on teleprompters for material he SHOULD fucking know, considering he originally RECORDED the songs, no?

Let's be realistic here...Ozzy is fucking done...and he's been done for years...

I'll give credit where credit is due - as a frontman for a band, few have ever done it better. Ozzy, in his heyday, could get a crowd fired up like NONE OTHER - and for that (and his off the stage antics), he'll always be a legend.

But - I don't fool myself about him or his contributions to either Black Sabbath or the Ozzy Osbourne/Blizzard of Ozz band...because they were, at the end of the day, non-existant, at least musically. Humming a verse for your bass player (Butler or Daisley) to write words around does not a lyricist make, and it's that simple. And the "Bring in the Writing Team" country-western style approach of the mid 90s to his albums up to today? Don't even get me started on that bullshit...

I love Ozzy/Sabbath so much it'd make your head spin, trust me - but when it comes to raw talent as a lead singer/lyricist, and functionality in that position today - Ronnie can't be beat.

Honest to God, I really hope Tony and Geezer sit down and work out a viable plan with Ronnie before "The Dio Years" comes out to make Ronnie's return a permanent one. The only statement they need to make about it would be: "It was great touring with Ozzy again, and giving the younger generation of Sabbath fans something they always wanted to see, but it's simply time to move on and we feel we've still got a lot of quality work that we can do with Ronnie James Dio - work that's been waiting to happen for far too long. Best of luck to Ozzy and his family, signed, Tony and Geezer" (because Bill will be gone if Ozzy's gone, that simple).

I am SINCERELY hoping this happens - this is right on par with me for a classic VH reunion - VERY close in importance level.

[Bootyac]

I liked the Speak of the devil album..

I still dont know why Brad Gillis left Ozzy for freakin Nightranger of all bands

I also think that Jake E.Lee is a very under-rated axeman

[Mr Badguy]

Originally posted by Bootyac
I liked the Speak of the devil album..

I still dont know why Brad Gillis left Ozzy for freakin Nightranger of all bands

I also think that Jake E.Lee is a very under-rated axeman

I love that album as well.

Gillis really burns it up.

It`s just Ozzy`s singing on some numbers, which is wierd considering it`s obviously overdubbed and multitracked.

[Bootyac]

dont know if you have saw it,but there is a video from that tour where he sings his songs (if you remember on the album its only sabbath songs)

Its a pretty good video,Ozzy sounds ok to me..

I dunno,I saw Ozzy with Metallica many many years ago at the Cow Palace in like shit 83?His voice went out and Jake sang for the most part

[roryrobson666]

These albums fuckin rock.....neon knights on heven and hell rocks......but i love holy diver too......vivian campbell rules, but overall rainbow rising kills, YEEHAHH!!!!

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by roryrobson666
These albums fuckin rock.....neon knights on heven and hell rocks......but i love holy diver too......vivian campbell rules, but overall rainbow rising kills, YEEHAHH!!!!

Only six songs, but they're brilliant...

[GreenBayLA]

Never mind Freddie vs Dio.

Freddie never made a truely flawless classic album while Dio has appeared on three.

R U referring to Freddie Mercury or ??

Rainbow Rising is top notch but Sabbath's Heaven and Hell gets the nod in my book. Don't know if I ever heard Holy Diver, maybe when it came out. Not a Dio (the band) fan.
Countdown til some Graham Bonnet fan comes out of the woodwork...