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Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE now all we need is yngwie is to write a half way decent tune !!! we can only listen to his endless solo for so long
Eh...speak for yourself...while he has a few lame moments back and forth, overwhelmingly I think his material is well composed and always very interesting/fun to listen to, even if it does get very repetative and formulaic...
Still, I don't give a shit...I'll take the worst Yngwie Malmsteen album over the best Van Hagar crap any day of the week and twice on Sunday, for all that's worth...
i think i got into this arguement with you about a year ago ......hey you know why eddie van halen and van halen itself is so big ? cause eddie van halen and who ever singer hes working with can write A DAM GOOD SONG !!!....... i dont care how great eddie is or was no wants to hear 3 hours of endless jammin .... if eddie van halen could not write a song ,they would have never made it as big as they did ..... you know why van halen plays big arena "s and yngwie plays small clubs is because van halen has classic songs "PARTY ANTHEMS ' RUNNIN WITH THE DEVIL ,DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY ,PANAMA .....that people can sing along too ,maybe yngwie doesnt really care about writing songs ,who knows ,im not saying yngwie isnt great,he is ,but hes no where near EDDIE VAN HALEN ,THATS A FACT !!!
Yngwie is huge in Japan and Europe. Yngwie likes to be the boss. Eddie always wished he was the boss. Yngwie went broke. Yngwie was told he would never play guitar again due to an injury. Yngwie came back, is still rich and still plays like a motherfucker. On his terms too.
Ripper is awesome, but it's a shame he's becoming a hired hand rather than focussing on putting out his own material. The 'Beyond Fear' album was killer....
Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE i think i got into this arguement with you about a year ago ......
Yup, and your argument is still as stupid and irrelevant as it was back then.
Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE hey you know why eddie van halen and van halen itself is so big ? cause eddie van halen and who ever singer hes working with can write A DAM GOOD SONG !!!.......
Again, wrong. Eddie Van Halen and "whatever singer" he's had hasn't written a somewhat decent song since 1986.
Yngwie Malmsteen, on the other hand, has double the material, and while he's put out a few stinkers, they've been few and far between. The material is well composed, lyrically they're usually pretty good, and the playing is without measure. Yngwie always puts together tight bands and I don't fucking care how "Big" Van Halen is as opposed to Yngwie, because Van Halen isn't part of this thread, is it?
You wanna bestow everyone with the virtues of Eddie (and Sammy and Gary, apparently), Main's thataway. This is Yngwie's thread.
Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE i dont care how great eddie is or was no wants to hear 3 hours of endless jammin ....
Funny you should say so, because, oddly enough, people do. Yngwie's still selling records, does a pretty decent amount of business in the U.S. and is HUGE overseas.
I guess it's just YOU who doesn't want to hear "Three hours of endless jamming"...and those who don't listen to Yngwie, nor have ever seen him in concert, love to assume that's the case when in fact, it isn't.
Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE if eddie van halen could not write a song ,they would have never made it as big as they did .....
What reference point does that have? None.
Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE you know why van halen plays big arena "s and yngwie plays small clubs is because van halen has classic songs "PARTY ANTHEMS ' RUNNIN WITH THE DEVIL ,DANCE THE NIGHT AWAY ,PANAMA .....
Which means that Van Halen appeals to a broader audience, I'll freely admit that. Yngwie Malmsteen is a musician for musicians, and appeals to a more discriminating taste. Van Halen's music in contrast is a far easier sell.
And so what? Miley Cyrus is an easier sell than Van Halen these days, she does THREE TIMES the amount of business they do. For every one remaining Van Halen fan, she has twenty kids (and their parents) who will buy ANYTHING she puts out.
I could take your same argument and it's just as stupid. Just change it to how much better Miley Cyrus is than Van Halen and it's the same point, essentially. Because Miley has songs that people can sing along to, so she's better than Van Halen will ever be.
Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE maybe yngwie doesnt really care about writing songs ,
Yeah, considering his discography of 25 odd albums, I'm sure "writing songs is the last thing on Yngwie's mind."
Dumbass.
Originally posted by BALLYJUNKIE who knows ,im not saying yngwie isnt great,he is ,but hes no where near EDDIE VAN HALEN ,THATS A FACT !!!
That's your opinion, and it's nowhere near fact.
Were it not for the fact that Eddie Van Halen hasn't played guitar for a shit since 1985, I might be inclined to agree with you. Unfortunately, the world moved on after Van Halen went tits up and other people CAN in fact actually play guitar!
Originally posted by binnie Ripper is awesome, but it's a shame he's becoming a hired hand rather than focussing on putting out his own material. The 'Beyond Fear' album was killer....
Yeah, that's the only downside to it. I'd much rather see Ripper in his own gig rather than being a singer-for-hire, but admittedly he's going to do better business in existing acts than as a solo artist, more likely than not.
Still, I'd really like to see this be a long term set up, and hope Ripper and Yngwie go for quite a distance. I'm interested in seeing what sort of "different musical direction" Yngwie's aiming at, but with the addition of Ripper, I'm guessing MUCH heavier metal.
I guess Yngwie finally ran out of Ritchie Blackmore's old singers!
Yngwie has written & rewritten the same material since 1986.
He is not even pimple on Edward Van Halen's ass, as far as creativity & true expression on the instrument.
He is a technician, not a songwriter.
Ed rewrote the book on guitar....and....could compose memorable tunes.
Ed appealed to an audience that existed outside the confines of Guitar World magazine & youtube shred olympics.
And Ripper is a fucking clone of Rob Halford, fer chrissakes!
Someone get Bueno Bob a roll of paper towels & a clue.
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