OZZY OSBOURNE Sues TONY IOMMI Over Ownership Of BLACK SABBATH Name

[Mr Walker]

Of the first six, though, Katie's definitely right, they're all 5 star albums, for sure...

Thanks alot... lol

[bueno bob]

Thanks alot... lol

Oh whatever. I'm half stoned anyway, lmao! I'm lucky I got the five star part right...

[bueno bob]

Not exactly, a few more facts are coming out.

This is from another source:

"Anyway, my Music Contracts teacher is a bigtime lawyer in the music business and also happens to be a good friend of Ozzy and Sharon (I was disappointed in him as well), so I asked him about the case and whether or not Ozzy has a chance of winning it, and basically, even though Ozzy signed away his rights, he still has a real good case here, and the reason is totally fucked up.

Apperantly, even though Ozzy didn't have the rights, Tony has been giving him a good portion of the profits from the merchandise for many, many years, thus creating an implied contract that may legally override the written contract that was drawn up back in '80. Recently, however, Tony made a new deal of some sort and Ozzy is not seeing profits from it this time. So Ozzy has been profiting for many years on what was not his, and because he can prove that he has become accustomed to that income, he is legally entitled to keep getting it."

That's going to be SUCH a load of shit if they win based on those circumstances. Seriously, Sharon and Ozzy need to find their way underneath the wheels of the nearest bus ASAP...

Fuck...

[FORD]

Of the first six, though, Katie's definitely right, they're all 5 star albums, for sure...

That "first six" rule seems to work with a lot of bands.

Sabbath. Ac/Dc. Van Halen. Led Zeppelin. Probably others, but my brain isn't fully caffeinated yet.

[katie]

They should appoint a neutral legal team, not the Sharon Arden

It was under Sharon's watch that Ozzy signed his rights away.

Remember she was looking after Ozzy at this point and her father Don was looking after Sabbath.

Sabbath had aproached him as he also looked after ELO who were friends of Sabbath as well.

[Golden AWe]

That "first six" rule seems to work with a lot of bands.

Sabbath. Ac/Dc. Van Halen. Led Zeppelin. Probably others, but my brain isn't fully caffeinated yet.

The Doors...

I think it would be interesting to put up a thread who made it properly past the first six...like Queen...

[FORD]

The Doors...

I think it would be interesting to put up a thread who made it properly past the first six...like Queen...

Yeah, Queen managed 8 albums before they started going downhill.

The "Crown Jewels" box set was very aptly named.

[katie]

Yeah, Queen managed 8 albums before they started going downhill.

The "Crown Jewels" box set was very aptly named.

I love early Queen, to me their best work was with Roy Thomas Baker.

Outstanding arrangements and harmonies.

[Coyote]

Yeah, Queen managed 8 albums before they started going downhill.

I can't answer that objectively, due to Queen being a major part of my childhood's soundtrack...

[Terry]

Not exactly, a few more facts are coming out.

This is from another source:

"Anyway, my Music Contracts teacher is a bigtime lawyer in the music business and also happens to be a good friend of Ozzy and Sharon (I was disappointed in him as well), so I asked him about the case and whether or not Ozzy has a chance of winning it, and basically, even though Ozzy signed away his rights, he still has a real good case here, and the reason is totally fucked up.

Apperantly, even though Ozzy didn't have the rights, Tony has been giving him a good portion of the profits from the merchandise for many, many years, thus creating an implied contract that may legally override the written contract that was drawn up back in '80. Recently, however, Tony made a new deal of some sort and Ozzy is not seeing profits from it this time. So Ozzy has been profiting for many years on what was not his, and because he can prove that he has become accustomed to that income, he is legally entitled to keep getting it."

Would surmise Tony had been giving Ozzy profits of the merchandising he wasn't legally obligated to in order to keep the peace...so now the reasoning is that...oh, fuck it.

[katie]

Would surmise Tony had been giving Ozzy profits of the merchandising he wasn't legally obligated to in order to keep the peace...so now the reasoning is that...oh, fuck it.

That's the way I read it but,

He gave Ozzy some profits as he was using Sharon to manage/promote these sabbath tours via ozzfest ect.

As soon as Ozzfest ended he stopped payments.

Sounds about right to me.

[letsrock]

sharon has turned into her father.

[bueno bob]

sharon has turned into her father.

Hopefully she has the same fate soon.

[Terry]

That's the way I read it but,

He gave Ozzy some profits as he was using Sharon to manage/promote these sabbath tours via ozzfest ect.

As soon as Ozzfest ended he stopped payments.

Sounds about right to me.

Which would make sense, that Iommi would be giving Ozzy some merchandising profits when Sabbath were playing the Ozzfests, or when Sabbath reunited with Ozzy and played in the U.K.; even if he wasn't required to, that would be only fair, as Ozzy was playing with Sabbath during those events.

[ELVIS]

Another great Ozzy performance!

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