Gene Simmons: ‘Jacko Was An Abuser’

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  • Diamondjimi
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • May 2004
    • 12086

    #31
    Great talent, wrong in the head, diddler p.o.s. !

    Any doubters will be singing a different tune after reading this book...
    Be Careful Who You Love: Inside the ... - Google Books


    He's dead. Karma wins. Let's move on shall we !?
    Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58813

      #32
      Not sure where Chaim thinks he has the right to judge here.....

      Didn't he brag about fucking a bunch of underaged girls back in the 70's?

      I know he can't be a homophobe, because his bandmate and business partner Paul Stanley likes to check out guys' cocks in public toilets. Maybe not as closely as George Michael does, but he's still looking!

      Maybe he's just afraid that Michael racked up a bigger number of pedobear fucks than he did?
      Eat Us And Smile

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      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Terry
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jan 2004
        • 11967

        #33
        Dunno if it a dysfunction on my part, but I can still listen to Jackson's music and enjoy it, even in spite of the allegations.
        Scramby eggs and bacon.

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        • GAR
          Banned
          • Jan 2004
          • 10881

          #34
          I can't listen to an MJ song on the radio and NOT think Joe Jackson gets a free pass from the damage he did to everybody in that family. For greed, and celebrity. Fuck that guy.

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          • ZahZoo
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Jan 2004
            • 8973

            #35
            Originally posted by Diamondjimi
            Great talent, wrong in the head, diddler p.o.s. !

            Any doubters will be singing a different tune after reading this book...
            Be Careful Who You Love: Inside the ... - Google Books


            He's dead. Karma wins. Let's move on shall we !?
            That's my opinon too... he's takin a dirt nap and no longer a threat nor a consideration for what he was or wasn't in his private life. That's all done...

            He'll be an icon of the era for music, dance and artistry... up there with the likes of Elvis, Sinatra, Hendrix, EVH, etc... The music will be all that stands firmly... the rest left to lore and legend.
            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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            • Shaun Ponsonby
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Oct 2004
              • 6409

              #36
              Originally posted by Panamark
              MJ was a kiddie fiddler, members of the last Jury spoke publicly about their
              belief (based on all the past evidence they had seen) that he was indeed
              a pedo. However the case on trial didnt have enough evidence to
              finally prosecute. How many boys did he pay millions to stay silent,
              I lost track, Was it 2 or 3 ?

              I agree, "Wheres theres Smoke"

              Assexual people dont have large stashes of Gay porn in their
              possession either. That, I believe is on record.
              Its funny how any members of the jury who spoke of such only spoke of such after thousand dollar book offers were made. True story. He didn't make the decision to pay anyone. Court records show that the original "pay-offs" were negotiated by his insurance company and lawyers whilst he was in rehab for painkiller addiction. These were made without his consent. He later said that he "paid people off" so as the media assault would end quickly. He did this as his people making such arrangements behind his back embarrassed him. Jordan Chandler never accused him of anything-only his father, who is on tape planning an extorion attempt. Not long after MJ died, Jordan Chandler's father committed suicide. In the past few years, Jordan Chandler has admitted (privately) that nothing ever happened. Jordan Chandler's mother testified under oath that she never believed anything ever happened.

              Asexual people do have porn. Asexuality is a complex issue that I don't expect people from "down under" to understand (because, you know, most of you are thick...this is the part of the world that gave us Home and Away, Neighbours and the Minouges). It's a lack of sexual drive. Being asexual doesn't eliminate basic fantasy and what have you. Read up on it-you'll be surprised. If you can read, that is. I imagine you can at least put together sentences if you're on hear.

              Originally posted by GAR
              It's in the videotape, fuckin retard.

              Why are you schilling for Wacko Jacko's cred?

              Go fuck some little boys, ShamePedoschilly!
              No it isn't on tape (to my knowledge, and I've researched this case quite heavily for an academic case study on media saturation).

              Sadly, due to the fact that I specialise in English you can understand, I'm oblivious to the phrase "schilling for Wacko Jacko's cred".

              And very witty with the "ShamePedoschilly". It's not quite up there with saying "yo mama", but its a close second. Contratulations on being a cock.

              Originally posted by Kristy
              Oh c'mon! The guy built a multi-million dollar theme park in order to attract children. He was no different than you average child molester driving around the neighborhood in a ice cream truck. And the dude was hardly asexual. Granted, he might have married Lisa Marie for a career boost rather than a proper marriage relationship but he had his fair share of women though I do believe he didn't have much interest in them despite fathering a child or two.
              Once again, the definition of asexual is misunderstood by thick people who can't be arsed reading up on things before they proclaim themselves an expert in the fucking field.

              I maintain Michael Jackson was mentally ill and misunderstood. In many ways, he was intellectually brilliant. In other ways, he was intellectually regressed. If he was truly paedophillic, would he say to Martin Bashir; "I allow children to sleep in my bed". Realistically, no. Is it right that children slept in his bed? Realistically, no.

              One thing history has taught us is that if someone is gifted in a certain area, they are often robbed of something elsewhere...this goes right back to ancient religious figures, even through the likes of Fredrick William. If Michael Jackson wasn't a talented guy, he wouldn't have reached so many people. His price? He was stuck in a world where everything was innocent. You look at that Martin Bashir film and he's a man in his 40s still climbing trees and having water balloon fights. When Bashir says "don't you prefer making love?", he practically ignores him. When he talks of his first semi-sexual encounter, in his 20s of all times, he says he couldn't go through with it. Bashir himself said that he thinks MJ "sees sex as something people have to go through, not enjoy".

              Originally posted by bueno bob
              Unless Macauley Culkin or any other of his associates says one way or another, but I doubt that'll ever happen.
              Well, Culkin is adament that nothing ever happened and they remained friends until MJ died. In fact, he was known to get quite pissed off if anyone ever suggessted that anything ever went down.

              And another "kid" was called to testify at the trial for the prosecution. He instead testified for the defense and quit his job in Australia so as he could travel to America to testify for the defense. He said he continued the "sleepovers" until he was way into his 20s and only stopped because it became inpractical for him in his life and because MJ started raising his own family.


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              As I said earlier, if you believe MJ was a child molester absolutely nothing, including the "kids" admitting it was bullshit, will ever change your mind. Ever. It's part of the massive cynical media/celebrity bullshit we experience today. Along with the rest of them. I could sit here for hours and list all the (quite frankly fascinating) stuff that has affected the MJ story, a story that if you made up you would think was completely ridiculous and had no believable qualities whatsoever, and all the other bullshit news reportage that has saturated people's knowledge of the world for God-Knows-How-Long. But none of you really give a shit. You'll believe what you want to believe. Fair enough. People who watch MSNBC do so because they're liberal. People who watch Fox News do so because they're conservtives (and if you think Bill O'Reily talks sense, that also makes you one of the lowest forms of human). You read the news you believe in. I'll believe what I want to believe. There's really no use in arguing about it for that very reason (I've argued back here, but thats mainly because I'm drunk and because the MJ reportage was very one-sided given that everyone decided he was definitely going down for it and my beef is with news media and not with people who think MJ was a paedophile...it also interests me that many of the reporters who decided he was guilty suddenly changed their minds the minute he died, thus promoting the idea of these snivelling imbeciles being nothing other than desperate cunts who crave acceptance from a popular audience. I literally don't believe anything I read anymore...everyone has an agenda).
              Last edited by Shaun Ponsonby; 02-24-2010, 11:26 PM.
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              • Baby's On Fire
                Veteran
                • May 2004
                • 1747

                #37
                Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
                Its funny how any members of the jury who spoke of such only spoke of such after thousand dollar book offers were made. True story. He didn't make the decision to pay anyone. Court records show that the original "pay-offs" were negotiated by his insurance company and lawyers whilst he was in rehab for painkiller addiction. These were made without his consent. He later said that he "paid people off" so as the media assault would end quickly. He did this as his people making such arrangements behind his back embarrassed him. Jordan Chandler never accused him of anything-only his father, who is on tape planning an extorion attempt. Not long after MJ died, Jordan Chandler's father committed suicide. In the past few years, Jordan Chandler has admitted (privately) that nothing ever happened. Jordan Chandler's mother testified under oath that she never believed anything ever happened.

                Asexual people do have porn. Asexuality is a complex issue that I don't expect people from "down under" to understand (because, you know, most of you are thick...this is the part of the world that gave us Home and Away, Neighbours and the Minouges). It's a lack of sexual drive. Being asexual doesn't eliminate basic fantasy and what have you. Read up on it-you'll be surprised. If you can read, that is. I imagine you can at least put together sentences if you're on hear.



                No it isn't on tape (to my knowledge, and I've researched this case quite heavily for an academic case study on media saturation).

                Sadly, due to the fact that I specialise in English you can understand, I'm oblivious to the phrase "schilling for Wacko Jacko's cred".

                And very witty with the "ShamePedoschilly". It's not quite up there with saying "yo mama", but its a close second. Contratulations on being a cock.



                Once again, the definition of asexual is misunderstood by thick people who can't be arsed reading up on things before they proclaim themselves an expert in the fucking field.

                I maintain Michael Jackson was mentally ill and misunderstood. In many ways, he was intellectually brilliant. In other ways, he was intellectually regressed. If he was truly paedophillic, would he say to Martin Bashir; "I allow children to sleep in my bed". Realistically, no. Is it right that children slept in his bed? Realistically, no.

                One thing history has taught us is that if someone is gifted in a certain area, they are often robbed of something elsewhere...this goes right back to ancient religious figures, even through the likes of Fredrick William. If Michael Jackson wasn't a talented guy, he wouldn't have reached so many people. His price? He was stuck in a world where everything was innocent. You look at that Martin Bashir film and he's a man in his 40s still climbing trees and having water balloon fights. When Bashir says "don't you prefer making love?", he practically ignores him. When he talks of his first semi-sexual encounter, in his 20s of all times, he says he couldn't go through with it. Bashir himself said that he thinks MJ "sees sex as something people have to go through, not enjoy".



                Well, Culkin is adament that nothing ever happened and they remained friends until MJ died. In fact, he was known to get quite pissed off if anyone ever suggessted that anything ever went down.

                And another "kid" was called to testify at the trial for the prosecution. He instead testified for the defense and quit his job in Australia so as he could travel to America to testify for the defense. He said he continued the "sleepovers" until he was way into his 20s and only stopped because it became inpractical for him in his life and because MJ started raising his own family.


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                As I said earlier, if you believe MJ was a child molester absolutely nothing, including the "kids" admitting it was bullshit, will ever change your mind. Ever. It's part of the massive cynical media/celebrity bullshit we experience today. Along with the rest of them. I could sit here for hours and list all the (quite frankly fascinating) stuff that has affected the MJ story, a story that if you made up you would think was completely ridiculous and had no believable qualities whatsoever, and all the other bullshit news reportage that has saturated people's knowledge of the world for God-Knows-How-Long. But none of you really give a shit. You'll believe what you want to believe. Fair enough. People who watch MSNBC do so because they're liberal. People who watch Fox News do so because they're conservtives (and if you think Bill O'Reily talks sense, that also makes you one of the lowest forms of human). You read the news you believe in. I'll believe what I want to believe. There's really no use in arguing about it for that very reason (I've argued back here, but thats mainly because I'm drunk and because the MJ reportage was very one-sided given that everyone decided he was definitely going down for it and my beef is with news media and not with people who think MJ was a paedophile...it also interests me that many of the reporters who decided he was guilty suddenly changed their minds the minute he died, thus promoting the idea of these snivelling imbeciles being nothing other than desperate cunts who crave acceptance from a popular audience. I literally don't believe anything I read anymore...everyone has an agenda).
                Great post...and backed up by fact.

                I'm sick and tired of all the douchebags here and everywhere claiming MJ was a pedophile.

                There isn't a single shred of evidence that he was guilty....Nothing whatsoever...there was ONE criminal trial that was so fucking weak the defense didn't even need to put on a defense.

                There were tens of thousands of kids who went to Neverland.....tens of fucking thousands accompanies by parents.....

                Simpletons, one and all...those who assume MJ was guilty.

                Freak? Yes. Guilty? Nope

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                • Diamondjimi
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • May 2004
                  • 12086

                  #38
                  And OJ???

                  Innocent right?!

                  Just like anything else in this world... Justice can and will be bought...

                  Beg to differ, Douchebag?
                  Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                  • Bill Lumbergh
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Mar 2004
                    • 5472

                    #39
                    I used to be fuckin' CONVINCED that MJ was a pedo. I parodied his songs, with lyrics about kid touching(Is my dick black, or is it white? Let the kids decide), and other such mature themes that I'm known for. However, I'm on the other side of the argument now. I agree with Shaun. I think he was fucking sexless....

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                    • thome
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 6678

                      #40
                      Sexless is a wierd term even if MJ was that doesn't mean he didn't sex others.

                      I just feel that if he was taken all the way to court 2 times think how many others must have been payed off and it was kept out of the courts..?

                      Lots of musicians/groups a have a couple tunes I dig. MJ has 10 or so that I dig.

                      I have no desire to see the latest cash grab movie about his death tour or to see him live .

                      I didn't like him that much, but he was a world wide fenom and some of his tunes are excellent.

                      Elvis is the king

                      Prince of pop??? not MJ he named himself that..

                      No denying his talent.

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                      • Panamark
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 17161

                        #41
                        [QUOTEAsexual people do have porn. Asexuality is a complex issue that I don't expect people from "down under" to understand (because, you know, most of you are thick...this is the part of the world that gave us Home and Away, Neighbours and the Minouges). It's a lack of sexual drive. Being asexual doesn't eliminate basic fantasy and what have you. Read up on it-you'll be surprised. If you can read, that is. I imagine you can at least put together sentences if you're on hear.
                        [/QUOTE]

                        Fuck you Katie.

                        Glad you are an expert on "Asexuality" go forth and
                        enjoy it to the max, idiot. Fucking weirdo.
                        Defender of pedo.

                        Dont start on me, seriously bad timing.

                        Take a swipe at me. asexual man with gay porn,
                        but leave the best country on earth out of it..
                        BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                        Love ya Mary Frances!

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                        • binnie
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • May 2006
                          • 19145

                          #42
                          We will never know.

                          Personally, I think that people are so ready to believe that Jacko was a deviant because he was eccentric......
                          The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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